OK, it looks like discussion ended, so I've moved [1] to beta release level in [2] [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Mediakit_ISO_Size [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Fedora_17_Install_Results_Template On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 08:35 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 08:47 +0100, drago01 wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 11:05 -0500, Petr Schindler wrote: > > > > > >> > We made this Beta not Alpha in the criteria on purpose, specifically > > >> > because we don't think it's a significant enough problem if the lives > > >> > are over-size at Alpha stage. It *may* be worth requiring at least > > >> > the > > >> > DVD to meet size requirements at Alpha size, although even if it's > > >> > over, > > >> > you can still test it in a VM or with a USB stick. I definitely think > > >> > we > > >> > shouldn't make the live sizes mandatory at Alpha. > > >> > > >> Here I don't know. I test in pre-alpha phase only on my VMs. When I > > >> want to boot on bare metal, I use USB stick. But it's truth that > > >> nothing new should be added after alpha. So the size of images should > > >> be quite the same then or not? Still I think it could be in beta. > > > > > > When we talk about 'nothing being added' after Alpha we're really > > > talking about major features. The package sets on the media can, and do, > > > change. It doesn't happen so much lately, but it's been the case in the > > > past that the Alpha live images were, say, 800MB, because no-one had yet > > > trimmed the package set down to keep them under a CD in size. Then they > > > did get properly trimmed down for Beta or Final. We don't want to block > > > the Alpha if this happens. > > > > Yes this has been discussed multiple times but ... do we really still > > care about "omg it does not fit on a CD" ? > > I mean it is 2012 ... > > It's off-topic for this thread, and it's for the spins to decide for > themselves. > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora > http://www.happyassassin.net > -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test