I guess I will stay with F-15 until F-17 alpha is available. F16 is the first Fedora I had to skip. Best luck1 ----- Original Message ----- > On Thu, 2011-11-24 at 14:41 -0500, ergodic wrote: > > Regardless there is something that changed from F-15 to F-16. F-15 > > runs with no problem. > > Well...yes. Lots of things change. Otherwise there'd be no point doing > a > new release. mesa, the kernel, and the X server all got major updates. > > > It would be interesting to know how many potential users were turned > > away by an installation that fails during the first boot. > > Interesting, also impossible. The answer for any distribution release > is > 'some'. Given the sheer amount of hardware out there it is > inconceivable > that any distribution ever released has booted properly on all of it. > > > Just for the sake of a test I installed Ubuntu 11.10 with no > > problems. > > It worked right out. > > That doesn't really surprise me at all. There are significant > differences in the versions of the relevant components included in > Ubuntu and Fedora. They are using older versions of everything, > compared > to F16. > > > As I mentioned, I have been using Fedora since version 3. Maybe > > because of the greater program complexity or whatever, there is a > > need > > to raise the standards. > > It's impossible to conclude this from a single anecdotal instance of > 'this release does not boot on my system'. As I said, it's perfectly > well known to anyone who does QA or support that there will be > hardware > which just doesn't work with any given distribution release, and the > exact set of hardware which doesn't work is different for every > release. > Given the fact that this is the case, and it's practically impossible > to > change it, a single anecdotal instance of 'this hardware works with > F15 > but does not work with F16' tells us nothing meaningful. It is not > possible to reliably draw the conclusion 'the quality of F16 is lower > than the quality of F15' from such data. It's really just something > that > happens. > > I'll bet you gold rings to rocks that there is hardware that works > with > F16 and doesn't work with F15, and that there was hardware which > worked > with F14 but not F15, or hardware which worked with F15 but not > F14...it's just...how things go. > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora > http://www.happyassassin.net > > -- > test mailing list > test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
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