There's something about that "oh no something went wrong" screen that just makes it clear that you're not going to have as good a day as you'd hoped for. Now that I've finished re-educating the window manager about my peculiarities ("yes, I do like more than one workspace, thank you"), here's a few things that are on my mind. 1) Chances are the "oh no" will go away once I install the latest versions of clutter and mutter; that has been my experience in the past. But yum won't do that for me. Somehow, in recent times, it has gotten rather harder to figure out *why* a given installation fails; "skipped because of dependency problems" is rather uninformative. I *think* the information I need can be found in lines like these: --> Processing Dependency: libcogl.so.2()(64bit) for package: clutter-gst-1.3.14-1.fc16.x86_64 --> Processing Dependency: libcogl.so.5()(64bit) for package: clutter-1.8.0-1.fc17.x86_64 ...but it takes some digging. But, just maybe, if I nuke clutter-gst and everything that needs it I can move forward. Meanwhile, experience tells me that the dependencies between gnome-shell and clutter/mutter aren't quite understood by the packaging system. 2) When running under gnome-shell, I have all kinds of problems with partial and/or delayed updates to the screen; these have been mentioned on this list before. Emacs and claws-mail seem particularly susceptible to this problem, for what it's worth. In fallback mode, instead, display updates Just Work. 3) Speaking of claws, the current Rawhide version remains hosed. It has the old pop-under and focus problems that got fixed earlier this year, and a number of the plugin packages are a rev behind and no longer work. 4) This morning my system OOMed for the first time in years. ConsoleKit appears to be going on a memory binge; its virtual size leave pikers like firefox way in the dust. Enough for one day, guess I should get some real work done now. Thanks, jon -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test