Re: Oh YES! grub2 FINALLY

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I have been using grub 2 for some time, most distros in fact use grub 2, fedora is one of the last major distros to switch over.

The advantages of grub 2 are

1. Grub 2 is much more feature rich.

2. Grub 2 has very good OS detection.

3. Grub 2 has a few very nice features.

4. gurb 1 is depreciated.

I agree that the major disadvantage is that it is more complex to configure if there are problems or you want to customize. This is off set by the simple fact that grub 2 almost always works out of the box and so the need for users to customize grub 2 is almost non-existent.

All you really need is a documentation page, similar to this :

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2

and reference the grub manual for further information.

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html

That second link is very complete ;)

I can work on a grub 2 page for fedora (fedorasolved) if that would be of any assistance, sort of depends on if anyone has started on documentation for fedora yet.

I have not yet tried F16 so do not know what, if any, customizations have been made for fedora.

There is no real point to complaining about these things, projects move on, and you have to learn to adapt to the changes.

bodhi.zazen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom H" <tomh0665@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases" <test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 11:23:56 AM
Subject: Re: Oh YES! grub2 FINALLY

On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Felix Miata <mrmazda@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> No small problem with Grub2 is that few but Grub devs know how to configure
> it. Grub2 documentation is among the worst of the bad, virtually
> non-existent, particularly in a form those who need it most can comprehend,
> e.g. multibooters, RAID users & GPT users who are not Grub devs.

It's been at least a year since I last consulted any online grub2
documentation but there were definitely some very good explanations
and howtos available. The tools and scripts that build grub.cfg have
become far better than they were when, for example, Ubuntu 9.10 was
released and they didn't recognize a Fedora initrd (if you were
dual-booting Fedora and Ubuntu) and sometimes misidentified the "/"
and "/boot" partitions. Since then many bugs have been squashed, many
refinements made, and  features added (like having "/boot" on a v1.x
metadata mdraid array or a partitioned mdraid array).

Fedora's always had very good documentation so we'll eventually have
something good on fp.o.

I prefer grub1 though because if you want to customize grub.cfg beyond
what grub2 upstream thinks that you can/should, you have to edit the
scripts in "/etc/grub.d/" - and that's more trouble than it's really
worth.
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