Re: Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-01-09 17:00 - 18:35 UTC)

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On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 13:38:16 -0500, James Antill wrote:

> http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-01-09/fpc.2014-01-09-16.59.log.html

> 17:53:34 * RemiFedora can't find where confusion is. Current guidelines seems
> clear about "a now removed exception"

Remi, the Wiki page has been updated by Toshio three weeks ago already!
That's why it is _better_ and less confusing already, but not perfect. See
page history:

  https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging%3ANamingGuidelines&diff=364793&oldid=363395


> 17:54:02 <abadger1999> yeah -- I think it's just the examples that he wants clarified.

Yes, as explained in the ticket, they have lead to confusion in the
gstreamer1-python review ticket. Note that *I* would have applied the
%parent-%child nameing guidelines for that package, but the package
submitter derived the package name from the examples and the _existing_
gstreamer-python package.

The guidelines also don't tell that the old packages need not be renamed.

The meeting log also adds something new, and that is new subpackages for
Python 3 may keep the old base name and need not prepend the python3-
prefix. That would be a clarification item, too.


> 17:55:01 <tibbs|w> I don't know; there's that wall of text but nothing
> actually saying what he'd like changed.

Only the FPC knows what naming scheme they want to be applied. I'm not
fond of the enforced %parent-%child scheme and would prefer staying closer
to upstream names.


> 17:55:50 <tibbs|w> So, yeah, clarify the examples as much as possible but
> don't actually change any guidelines unless someone tosses in a proposal
> for what they actually want changed.

To drop from the examples the packages that apply the old naming scheme
and replace them with any packages that apply a python- prefix and follow
current guidelines. Use "python-foo" as a last resort.


> 17:58:54 <tibbs|w> I'm sure we'll get complaints (and still no draft) if
> that wasn't what was being requested.

The only one who complains here is you. :( Be thankful that I've taken the
time to inform the FPC about the confusion. Why publish such guidelines
and lots of text about %parent-%child relationship, if there is no real
interest in getting packagers/reviewers to follow those guidelines? Who
cares whether the package is named gst-python or gstreamer-python or
python-gstreamer?
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