Hi, My 2 cents, On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:50 AM, T.C. Hollingsworth <tchollingsworth@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > My plan is to have two parallel installable jquery packages: one for the 2.x > branch and one for the 1.x branch. As much as I'd like to skip the latter, > older IE versions will continue to be the bane of web developers' existence for > some time to come. We'll continue to support the 1.x series in Fedora as long > as jQuery upstream supports it. JQuery is a library that "often" breaks compatibility (compared to what I'm used to). Having one version of each branch sounds a bit restrictive. > For stuff that needs older jQuery versions, ideally we can patch them to work > with the latest version. But for a quick fix, we can get most of them working > with 1.10 using jquery-migrate [1] with minimal effort. (All you need is an > extra <script> tag in most cases. :-) This is javascript. The language is too dynamic and permissive for me to feel comfortable with an automated migration. What if the project uses some eval magic ? Does it work with both dotted and bracketed notations ..? > For stuff that uses really old jQuery versions where even jquery-migrate isn't > an option (e.g. < 1.6), my first concern is whether upstream is alive in the > first place. Because seriously, that stuff is OLD. We really shouldn't be > shipping code that was deprecated three years ago! If upstream is actively > maintained, then they really need to get with the program. While I agree with you, I also understand people who don't want to migrate "just because" when the application is stable. Especially with a library like jQuery that tends to rapidly deprecate and remove stuff. > That being said, our de facto policy regarding bundling is to grandfather old > packages in, which means they can bundle those ancient versions of jQuery till > the end of days if that's what they want. Though I might have to ask FPC if I > can add Provides: security-nightmare-waiting-to-happen to their spec files. ;-) > > Where migration is possible, I fully intend to have everything unbundled for > F21, wielding my shiny new provenpackager hammer wherever necessary. > > Going forward we'll treat jQuery just like any other library in the > distribution. When a new version comes out, ideally we'll migrate everything by > the next Fedora release, or else provide a parallel-installable backward compat > package only when absolutely necessary. > > If you want to help get ready, I suggest working with your upstreams to migrate > to jQuery 1.10, using jquery-migrate where necessary. That'll make our lives > much easier when we get ready to unbundle. > > BTW, I intend to write up a couple of blog posts outlining the general plan and > a list of tips for packagers who want to get a head start within the next month. > But right now I'm busy working on some awesome tools to further automate nodejs > packaging, since we're going to need a lot of nodejs-foo packages as > BuildRequires for the various js-foo packages we want to introduce. > > -T.C. > > [1] https://github.com/jquery/jquery-migrate/ > -- > packaging mailing list > packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging -- packaging mailing list packaging@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/packaging