Re: make install INSTALL="install -p" to guidelines

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On Jul 19, 2009, at 8:16, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On 07/19/2009 01:15 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Am Dienstag, den 14.07.2009, 05:04 +0200 schrieb Ralf Corsepius:
Jussi Lehtola wrote:
Hi,



could somebody add a mention of adding INSTALL="install -p" to argument of 'make install' as a fix of preserving the time stamp during install
to the packaging guidelines?

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Timestamps

This really should be in the spec file templates as well, since it's
such a common packaging bug (and shouldn't break anything either).

Well, you are a new-comer to packaging, aren't you?

Otherwise you'd likely know that "install -p" is highly controversal,
because it doesn't guarantee consistency of timestamps and is mostly
"eye-candy".

I consider myself an old stager, nevertheless I hear this for the first
time. Can you please tell me where this was discussed in the past? I
couldn't find anything on fedora-devel or fedora-packaging.
Ohh, it has been discussed numerous times, so many times I don't have any particular reference to one of these.

The points behind these discussions are:
* People believe in "timestamps" matter for rpm.
rpm doesn't and must not care about timestamps, otherwise share files between packages doesn't work.



I thought timestamps mattered for multilib situations causing file conflicts.

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Jes

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