Hi all, fedora-usermgmt has a period of about a year to appear in discussions, I think the FPC needs to consider it and make a final decision with wich to live with for the next N years. The recent example is that OLPC developers scan the wiki and find fedora-usermgmt promising a lot (which it cannot really devliver) and are lured into using it. Non hard core Fedorians do not know that the authoritative bits are under /Packaging/, and not under for example /PackageUserCreation/ or /PackageUserCreation/ (which are named much too generic for being really fedora-usermgmt pages), and are fooled into thinking that this is Fedora's canonical way to go. Also the few (two?) fedora-usermgmt supporters are pointing people to this direction. Whatever the quality of fedora-usermgmt's approach, we can all agree or disagree or agree on disagreeing, but I think two points are clear: a) it is the FPC's job to dictate how a package should manage its uid/gid requirements. b) the FPC needs to have a uniform method of dealing with it. This means either to ban fedora-usermgmt or to officially embrace it and make it part of the uid/gid assignment process. fedora-usermgmt was grandfathered from fedora.us days and needs to be reviewed just like any other technology we use. Ville and friends did a nice official FPC proposal that passed that catered for all cases where fedora-usermgmt could be used and more (even considering prepopulated uid/gid system resources). It was now in effect since a year os so and we know it does its job. IMHO the next step is to declare fedora-usermgmt as deprecated and request packages to move to a non-fedora-usermgmt uid/gid handling for F11. Most probably all members of the FPC are aware of the recuring fedora-usermgmt discussions - this should not be another one. If you all think you know where you stand, and have read about fedora-usermgmt pros and cons make a quick decision on this to get this over with. -- Axel.Thimm at ATrpms.net
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