On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:57:57AM +0300, Axel Thimm wrote: > On Tue, Jul 08, 2008 at 04:58:20PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/MinGW > > What is Fedora's motivation is promoting using Open Source on a closed > source operating system? This is beyond the FPC to decide as this is a > technical committee, but still a valid question and maybe one that the > board should be investigating. > > F/LOSS often had and has to compromise on its base principles to get a > lift-off, and so does Fedora (the current exception for firmwares is > such a compromise). Before there was a Linux kernel, the GNU project > was "supporting" closed source Unices and by design still does so. > > But we're beyond the age of this kind of symbiosis, Linux (or > GNU/Linux ...) and Fedora in particular doesn't need this anymore. In > fact when a patch in a Fedora package is made it often doesn't matter > if it works on other Unices, sometimes not even for the Free ones. <rhetorical> If we're beyond the age of symbiosis, we can remove SAMBA from Fedora then, because that's only needed for interoperability with closed source products. </rhetorical> I'd love to believe that Fedora and F/LOSS had achieved world domination but sadly we're still fighting the battle, though unquestionably further along than we were just a few years ago. One of the best things about F/LOSS is that there are soo many projects breaking down proprietry walled gardens, but providing interoperability with closed source produts/platforms. This is providing users an escape path, allowing them to migrate to Fedora. SAMBA is a great example of this. We want Fedora+libvirt to provide the escape path for people running VMWare + Windows, and for this to work we need to provide the libirt clients for Windows platforms. This enables them to switch out VMWare in favour of Fedora + Xen/KVM, without having to migrate their entire desktop environment from Windows to Linux at the same time. Daniel -- |: Red Hat, Engineering, London -o- http://people.redhat.com/berrange/ :| |: http://libvirt.org -o- http://virt-manager.org -o- http://ovirt.org :| |: http://autobuild.org -o- http://search.cpan.org/~danberr/ :| |: GnuPG: 7D3B9505 -o- F3C9 553F A1DA 4AC2 5648 23C1 B3DF F742 7D3B 9505 :| -- Fedora-packaging mailing list Fedora-packaging@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-packaging