On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 13:13 +0100, Axel Thimm wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 09:58:27AM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > On Tuesday 06 February 2007 06:29, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > >>>>> "TC" == Tom 'spot' Callaway <tcallawa@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > > > > > TC> Since perl is special, perl packages are exempt from the > > > TC> requirement for -devel packages for .h header files. > > > > > > I'm definitely for for this, although I wish someone who truly > > > understands why arch-specific Perl modules need a .h file could > > > explain it to us. For all I know it doesn't actually need to be > > > packaged. > > > > They're installed for the usual reasons - something requires them, usually at > > build time. See for example perl-DBI and perl-DBD-MySQL; the latter needs > > DBI's *.h to build, ditto probably all other perl-DBD-*. > > > > Rather than blanket approval for the status quo, I think it would be better to > > first discuss whether -devel packages for some perl modules should be > > introduced instead. > > Does anyone know about how many perl packages we're talking about? If > it's a small number I'd go with Ville and have them properly split out > their *-devel. It's much cleaner that way. If it involves major > surgery then we'd have to let this pass though, but I assume it will > affect only a few. > > The packages I've seen carrying *.h files are mostly not suited > becoming perl- prefixed anyway (in a monolithic package) as they are > carrying more than modules. Well, here's a big one: perl. Perl has a healthy number of .h files: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/Encode/encode.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/EXTERN.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/INTERN.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/XSUB.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/av.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/cc_runtime.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/config.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/cop.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/cv.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/dosish.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/embed.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/embedvar.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/fakesdio.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/fakethr.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/form.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/gv.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/handy.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/hv.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/intrpvar.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/iperlsys.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/keywords.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/malloc_ctl.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/mg.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/nostdio.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/op.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/opcode.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/opnames.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/pad.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/patchlevel.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/perl.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/perlapi.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/perlio.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/perliol.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/perlsdio.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/perlsfio.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/perlvars.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/perly.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/pp.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/pp_proto.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/proto.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/reentr.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/regcomp.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/regexp.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/regnodes.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/scope.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/sv.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/thrdvar.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/thread.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/uconfig.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/unixish.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/utf8.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/utfebcdic.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/util.h /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/warnings.h My concern is that if we make a perl-devel here, some things that had perl as an unstated BuildRequires will suddenly stop building until they add perl-devel. Not fatal, but rather intrusive. Thoughts? ~spot -- Fedora-packaging mailing list Fedora-packaging@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-packaging
