On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 03:00:21PM -0400, Jeremy Katz wrote: > On Tue, 2006-08-29 at 11:09 -0700, Christopher Stone wrote: > > It should be really easy to make a script that builds metagroup > > packages from comps, no? > > > > This will allow someone to install a group such as kde/gnome as an rpm > > package and when packages are removed/added/changed in the comps > > groups, the meta group package also changes, and the user gets the > > appropriate changes. > > > > I don't think this is possible now with the groupinstall feature in > > yum which IMO is a bad feature since it should be done with meta group > > packages as I describe. > > > > Comments? > > The entire point here is that there don't have to be packages to keep > track of this metadata -- so if you change comps, you don't have to go > change lots of packages. This is also really helpful for doing > site-specific customizations of what the various groups are. > > The argument about a "noob" is pretty much moot as they're far more > likely to be using the graphical interface as opposed to yum on the > command line. And at that point, the comps file becomes even _more_ > important as it's used for the entirety of the display. > > Jeremy > > -- > Fedora-packaging mailing list > Fedora-packaging@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-packaging I agree that packages for maintaining this metadata is bad. However, I do have issues related to this. I build/maintain slightly modified versions of FC/RHEL to support NC State University. For some time now administrators on campus have known that if they want a stripped down server they can use kickstart and include the Server group. For workstations, the kickstart has one or two workstation groups that install the standard setup. Now to install a workstation the kickstart needs to have...I think I stopped counting at 15 groups. This is slightly problematic in 2 ways. I have a pretty big re-education effort (much more so than if the names of the group changed or only 1 or 2 additions). Also, there's a large risk that one group or another will forget/add certain groups making my managed clients less identical, harder to maintain, and even worse to support. Perhaps I've missed something. Jack -- Jack Neely <jjneely@xxxxxxxx> Campus Linux Services Project Lead Information Technology Division, NC State University GPG Fingerprint: 1917 5AC1 E828 9337 7AA4 EA6B 213B 765F 3B6A 5B89 -- Fedora-packaging mailing list Fedora-packaging@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-packaging