On Tue, 2006-08-15 at 14:52 -0400, Jack Neely wrote: > I'm starting to think that Jesse is right. Kernel modules don't belong > here. We have a couple good suggestions and sem-workable code for them. > Hopefully they will be supplanted by the kabi stuff in the near future as > I think that shows a lot of promise. Ok. A few comments here. I'm sorry I've not shouted too much before but I'm trying to listen rather than come into this group with too strong an opinion. I am very interested in discussing what we can do in the longer term about module packaging via IRC/whatever if it's useful toward reaching consensus, but I'm the new guy here so you tell me! :-) At the moment, the kABI stuff is a small addition to kmods. I changed the kmodtool slightly (couple of lines of patch, attached a version) so that we depend upon kABI and remove the dependency on a particular kernel package version. All of that is in rawhide right now and has actually been for a while - but not so useful with no "stable" kABI. I modified the kernel package build so that a new tool, kabitool, determines the groupings of ABI dependencies that are generated (it's all to work around limitations in RPM for the moment) and can take a config file that specifies these groupings too - so in the future, we could group things like the module struct, printk and other stuff that changes little but is a common dep. into its own dep. grouping. That would help when not having a stable kABI, but only a little. Still, we don't have a stable kABI in Fedora (and that includes locking hierarchies that aren't automatically checked at the moment) so I am keen to avoid overselling ABI matching to the Fedora user base. I am, however working on some patches (as upstream maintainer of m-i-t) to allow depmod to be given explicit module priorities for multiple matching names under /lib/modules. This will allow us to override which modules will be selected by insmod/modprobe through a simple conf.d. I am hoping to get that stuff out into rawhide this week and available. Jon. -- Jon Masters Phone: +44 7776 131337 Red Hat UK, Ltd. Email: jcm@xxxxxxxxxx
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