> I'm just trying to get this conversation moving forward again by > making sure everyone is aware of where the current implementation > stands. This particular issue seems to be forever stalled in a > debate over where to start.. policy or tools. I'd hate to see this Well, we've got a small bit of the functionality in Yum working...if oddly. I don't mind doing that work but we need some idea of policy that I can code to. :-) > conversation frustrated further by an inaccurate accessment of current > reality. If packagers provided "kernel-modules" the current magic in > yum would work pretty well for most of the situations an end-user > would care about. What are the real hold ups here... why isn't it > good enough to make a policy decision that all Core and Extras module > packages provide "kernel-modules" and be named > "kernel-module-whatever" as a starting point to get some packages out? > How I would like things to be: Kernel module packages MUST provide "kernel-modules". Not "kernel-module". This keeps in line with previous work and already existing code. This provides will identify to Yum/Plague/Whatever that this package is a kernel module and needs special treatment. Kernel module packages MUST require kernel-%{_targetcpu} = ${kver}. This identifies to Yum what kernel this module works with and will identify other kernel module packages that need to be removed. The release tag will be <RELEASE>.%{?kver:.%(echo %{kver} | tr - _)} or something along those lines. This provides no information to Yum/Plague but gives the package a unique EVR. Its really hard to correctly parse information like a kernel version out of the release tag. I really don't like the kernel-module-foo-source base package that produces a subpackage of kernel-module-foo. This adds way to much complexity. The goal here, IIRC, is to be able to have one src.rpm for all the times that the kernel-module-foo has been rebuilt for each kernel version/flavor. Being that the release tag already contains a lot of our magic I suggest we make the release tag be the following. Release: [release]%{!?sourcepackage:%(echo .%{kver} | tr - _)} where [release] is the packager's release number of the package. With this idea we ignore/delete all srpms that are created with rebuilds of the kerenl-module-foo package. To generate the official srpm the build system does: rpmbuild -bs kernel-module-foo.spec [defines] \ --define "sourcepackage 1" [targets] If this srpm already exists in the repository then ignore it. Otherwise, you have a new version of the kernel module itself rather than just 15 hundred rebuilds of it. Jack > -jef > > -- > Fedora-packaging mailing list > Fedora-packaging@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-packaging -- Jack Neely <jjneely@xxxxxxxx> Realm Linux Administration and Development PAMS Computer Operations at NC State University GPG Fingerprint: 1917 5AC1 E828 9337 7AA4 EA6B 213B 765F 3B6A 5B89 -- Fedora-packaging mailing list Fedora-packaging@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-packaging