https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1366355 --- Comment #3 from Stuart D Gathman <stuart@xxxxxxxxxxx> --- Why acme-tiny and not the existing certbot package? Certbot is an all singing, all dancing, configure your web server for you (with plugins for various web servers), ACME client plus general cert management tool. Let's Encrypt is a web service using the ACME protocol. Acme-tiny is a tiny ACME client that doesn't do all that stuff - because it only needs to be done once, so it is a really bad idea to have some generic script editing your configuration (and who knows what else hidden among all that code). Plus, certbot needs root access to your system. Acme-tiny does not. It runs as the acme user, and only has access to csrs you give it, certs it signs, and the Let's Encrypt account key (when using letsencrypt to sign). In summary, IMO certbot is targeting the wrong audience. The people that would need certbot to do all that one time configuration for them probably aren't running a web server to begin with. But I could be wrong. There are a lot of non-technical Fedora users, that just may in fact run web servers and appreciate certbot. With the apache drop-in I provide in acme-tiny, 99% of apache configurations work out of the box anyway. You only need to adjust the config if you use <Location "/"> deny all inside a <VirtualHost> (which overrides the global acme-challenge config). In summary: letsencrypt is a web service. ACME is a wire protocol. certbot is a bloated client implementation of ACME. acme-tiny is a lean and mean client implementation. My acme-tiny package adds pre-made directories, user, and a tiny cron script so that everything mostly works out of the box. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. You are always notified about changes to this product and component _______________________________________________ package-review mailing list package-review@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/package-review@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx