On 6 December 2012 19:06, Christopher Antila <crantila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 5 December 2012 18:25:31 Brendan Jones wrote: Have been resisting the urge to jump in with a 'me too' post, but since I'm writing emails... >> >> LaTeX / TeXLive is *humongous*! A "moderate" installation is at least >> >> 300 MB and the whole boat comes to about 3 GB. Inkscape (and Scribus >> >> and GIMP and a video editor and sometimes Blender) are usually found >> >> on "multimedia" distros, so I'd like to see them. And of course CSound >> >> needs to be on an *audio* distro. >> > >> > I agree. I don't think we *need* LaTex. What propose would it serve in >> > the spin. We already have lilypad for engraving. Inkskape and gimp i >> > would like to see still be on the spin, but i won't cry if we remove them >> >> Some have mentioned post-production of scores. > It was probably me. Frankly, I think we definitely don't need Scribus or > especially Blender. GIMP and Inkscape are useful for modifying LilyPond > output, and they're pretty small (Inkscape especially). > > I'm also willing to say we don't really need LaTeX because: > 1.) I highly doubt there are a large number of people who aren't me but would > still like to use Fedora Jam for writing academic music papers with LilyPond > and LaTeX. > 2.) Even I don't use the distribution-provided LaTeX because it's quite old. > Anything that might be considered specialist for a different field should probably get a very critical look. E.g. LaTeX. Esp. LaTeX. It's massive enough to warrant its own spin really. Similarly Scribus and Blender (has Blender actually been suggested?) are quite specialist tools from fairly different fields. >> > What is the default email client in KDE? >> >> kmail I'd imagine > Yes, KMail and the Kontact suite. If default Fedora has a default of > something, and "something" isn't an audio-specific thing, I feel we shouldn't > change it. Let's waste our time on audio-specific things because, at the end of > the day, nobody (reasonable) will avoid Fedora Jam *just because* we use the > default Fedora browser instead of the default KDE browser. > I think specifically the browser was simply that Konqueror doesn't really work well enough and people would be surprised not to find a browser unless they were hoping for a /really/ focused system as it's such a central part of a computer system these days. (You could even make a case for it being important to audio production.) You can probably draw up three categories of stuff to be considered to various degrees: 1. Audio tools. As many as can realistically be put on there. 2. Non-audio tools that might have an audio creation use, e.g. Inkscape, webcam software (performance videos), that kind of thing. Lots of this is already in the base we build on anyway. 3. Things that people will be surprised if they don't find (i.e. you forget for a second you're on this specialist audio spin and try to do something a computer normally does). A browser is the most obvious, a package manager is less obvious, but of course the route by which they can add anything they do think they need. Probably everything in here is in the base we build on anyway. Or in conclusion: > Let's waste our time on audio-specific things (a.k.a. 'me too') -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk _______________________________________________ music mailing list music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music
