Re: Spin Approval

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From the original email

> > anyway - the rest is a stock standard KDE kickstart - we haven't even
> > deleted any packages.

> You probably should to save some space. I doubt that musicians are
> interested in all the stuff KDE offers and be eliminating everything
> irrelevant applications, , you could in fact shift the focus more to
> music. But that's up to you.

I've done a little testing on the ISO size - see

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talk:Fedora_jam#Size_reductions_-_some_philosophy_and_research

Other than Calligra and the games, I don't know what else we could take out. KDE supplies Konqueror, so in *theory* we could ditch Firefox and Thunderbird. But I've found a few things that don't work in Konqueror, so we might get yelled at if we dropped Firefox. I wish we had Chromium; the web audio stuff is cutting edge.


On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 12/02/2012 10:11 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
Hi Brendan,
hi Jorn,

sorry again for the late reply.

Am Samstag, den 01.12.2012, 20:04 +0100 schrieb Brendan Jones:

   - we have added a kernel boot parameter 'threadirqs' - prerequisite of
the rtirq package to prioritize software IRQs (very useful for dealing
with latency of audio devices)

This is controversial, but I see nothing wrong with it. As long as there
is no guideline that explicitly forbids it, I am willing to allow it.

   - we have packaged out own background and our own KDE theme. The
background is simply the Spherical Cow them with a wave form
superimposed (fedora-jam-backgrounds).
   - we have packaged our own KDE theme - this has spherical cow as a
direct dependency and is only required so we can use the background
image by default (for the desktop and splash) The package is
fedora-jam-kde-theme

As long as everything is packaged, I see nothing wrong with it. This
being said I would rather like to have the files you add
to /etc/skel/.kde/ in %post as part of a package. I am not a KDE user,
so I don't know if it is possible or would it collide with other
packages.

   - you can see the hack where we've made the logged in user a member of
the audio group by default. This is required by
jack-audio-connection-kit - it prioritizes processes running under this
group. Again very improtant for latency issues.

I see your point, but the modifications
to /usr/share/firstboot/modules/create_user.py are a no-go. You need to
move the sed commands to the livesys init script, so the changes will
only be applied to the live system but not to the installed packages.
Even this is controversial (think of translations), but again as long as
it not explicitly forbidden, I'll turn a blind eye to it.

jack-audio-connection-kit packages a limits.d/ file to do this

No problem, everything form a package is fine.

anyway - the rest is a stock standard KDE kickstart - we haven't even
deleted any packages.

You probably should to save some space. I doubt that musicians are
interested in all the stuff KDE offers and be eliminating everything
irrelevant applications, , you could in fact shift the focus more to
music. But that's up to you.

Anyway, please keep me updated.

I have just approved your ks and wiki page. Please make the
modifications to the ks ASAP.

Next steps:
      1. Get the ks into the nightlies
      2. Get the ks into the spins-kickstart package. Fortunately the
         deadline is 2012-12-11.
      3. Call for a meeting of the spins SIG for approval
      4. Get board approval
      5. I will add this to the board meeting agenda on Wednesday.

I have to apologize to the two of you. I am incredibly busy with my
dayjob and have failed horribly as a spins wrangler, but I am trying my
best to get your spin in F18.

Kind regards,
Christoph



Forwarding to the music-list for reference.

regards,

Brendan
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