On 30 October 2012 18:58, Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > One suggestion about the spin > > Since it's KDE, there is no need to use pulseaudio. One elegant > alternative would be to exclude pulseaudio and include alsa-jack-plugin > providing a system wide alsa configuration (/etc/asound.conf) like this: > > pcm.rawjack { > type jack > playback_ports { > 0 system:playback_1 > 1 system:playback_2 > } > capture_ports { > 0 system:capture_1 > 1 system:capture_2 > } > } > > pcm.jack { > type plug > slave { pcm "rawjack" } > hint { > description "JACK Audio Connection Kit" > } > } > > pcm.!default { > type plug > slave { pcm "rawjack" } > } > I'd advise against removing pulse if we can help it: 1. In the past (pre-pulse) I used to try various dmix (alsa) solutions to get multi-application sound working. It's actually quite difficult to get it working right, especially once things get into different sample rates. Maybe this is better using jack as suggested, but lots of the people working on this wont be using this as their desktop which means fewer eyes on the setup we're asking others to use. Moving us neatly on to: 2. The spin isn't the sole purpose of audio creation/music list, it's (I think) "Creating high quality packages of music / audio applications, tools and libraries." Fedora's default sound platform is Pulse. If we can't get that integrated well with Jack and a professional audio environment then we'll be making things more difficult for users who want to use this stuff. The first advice to them will always be 'rip out pulse'. And on that note: 3. Pulse is actually one of the best things to happen to linux audio in the last decade. (Others are Jack and the steady improvement of drivers in ALSA.) I remember manually setting devices in every application, having to go around pkill-ing things to try and find what was holding the soundcard and, as above, playing with odd partial solutions. It was very painful in the early days, there are still problems with its integration (mixers is my favourite) and it now takes the flack as the application that's holding the sound device when non-aware programs try to use it. Of course if it really is impossible to overcome we might have to consider it to make the spin plug-and-play. Hopefully Jørn's control application will go some way to doing that though. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk _______________________________________________ music mailing list music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music