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> From: music-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: music Digest, Vol 48, Issue 7 > To: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 01:52:19 +0000 > > Send music mailing list submissions to > music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > music-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > music-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of music digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Jack is not Coorperating (Onyeibo Oku) > 2. Re: Jack is not Coorperating (Brendan Jones) > 3. guitar reverb (William Blackburn) > 4. Re: guitar reverb (Orcan Ogetbil) > 5. JACK in F15 (William Blackburn) > 6. Re: JACK in F15 (Brendan Jones) > 7. Re: JACK in F15 (Orcan Ogetbil) > 8. Re: JACK in F15 (Christopher Antila) > 9. Re: JACK in F15 (Brendan Jones) > 10. Re: JACK in F15 (Orcan Ogetbil) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 14:26:53 +0100 > From: Onyeibo Oku <twohotis@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Jack is not Coorperating > To: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <1302960424.14091.1.camel@f15rc> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 06:16 +1000, Brendan Jones wrote: > > > > On 04/14/2011 12:46 AM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > > While that is happening, efforts to run applications that depend on Jack > > > has been a nightmare. How do you work with Sound Apps on Fedora without > > > Jack? Can someone help us out? It just won't run ... the crash is > > > perfect, 100% guaranteed on a Lovelock (F15) Machine. > > > > > > Regards > > > Onyeibo > > > > > Hi. Maybe it is this bug > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392 ? THere are a few > > workarounds suggested which may work for you. > > > > regards, > > > > Brendan > > THANKS A LOT! > > The patch in the bug report got jack running. Any idea when the rebuilt > binutils will be available in the fedora repos? > > Regards > Onyeibo > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:35:09 +1000 > From: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Jack is not Coorperating > To: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <4DA99B0D.3080300@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > On 04/16/2011 11:26 PM, Onyeibo Oku wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 06:16 +1000, Brendan Jones wrote: > > The patch in the bug report got jack running. Any idea when the rebuilt > > binutils will be available in the fedora repos? > > > > Whilst the root of the problem has been narrowed down to recent changes > in the linker, the binutils maintainers still have to work out what > exactly is going wrong. > > Brendan > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:12:47 +0000 > From: William Blackburn <bill_-@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [Fedora-music-list] guitar reverb > To: <music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <SNT133-w33F1C7A7ED92B1022C390FB6AF0@xxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > What is the best GUI program for a guitar reverb effect. I really like the linuxDSP effect, but it is no longer free. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/music/attachments/20110416/94fdf92e/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 13:15:26 -0400 > From: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] guitar reverb > To: William Blackburn <bill_-@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <BANLkTi==APbE3NG9y6VoVEeNJguBYWTFuQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 12:12 PM, William Blackburn wrote: > > What is the best GUI program for a guitar reverb effect. ?I really like the > > linuxDSP effect, but it is no longer free. > > > > Depends on what you want to do. We have plenty of ladspa and lv2 > plugins that can be used by any software that support ladspa/lv2. > > Ladspa and lv2 plugins contain many effects including (but not limited > to echo/reverb). You can make some research via > > $ yum search ladspa > $ yum search lv2 > $ yum search reverb > $ yum search chorus > > etc. Note that these may not list everything we have. Another good > (yet incomplete) resource is our wiki page and the links therein: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Audio_Creation > > Moreover, there are also independent software that contain such > effects, such as guitarix, creox, ... > > Cheers, > Orcan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 23:16:54 +0000 > From: William Blackburn <bill_-@xxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: JACK in F15 > To: <music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: <SNT133-w5195E6D0A733B0711B6511B6AF0@xxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > I am having trouble starting JACK in Fedora 15. I really want to try out some ladspa effects in JACK-rack. Can someone help me configure it properly? > Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to set it up. a short explanation should do me > > thanks, > Bill Blackburn > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/music/attachments/20110416/ad6e18fb/attachment-0001.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 09:42:47 +1000 > From: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: JACK in F15 > To: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <4DAA2977.20005@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > On 04/17/2011 09:16 AM, William Blackburn wrote: > > Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to > > set it up. a short explanation should do me > > Hi Bill > > there is some documentation here: > /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora > > There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault. > there are some workarounds listed here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392 > > Let me know if you need more info > > regards, > > Brendan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 20:32:09 -0400 > From: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: JACK in F15 > To: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <BANLkTimDCkbXd+nmqHz3HxZ5qLEnuKNK2g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Brendan Jones wrote: > > > > > > On 04/17/2011 09:16 AM, William Blackburn wrote: > >> Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to > >> set it up. a short explanation should do me > > > > Hi Bill > > > > there is some documentation here: > > /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora > > > > Hi all, > > If you folks think that the above README.Fedora documentation file > needs an update, now it is a good time to suggest changes. > > Especially, the pulseaudio part needs a hand. I don't (want to) know > how to make jack work nicely with pulseaudio, but if you have some > guideline, I won't mind including in the README.Fedora file. > > > There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault. > > there are some workarounds listed here: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392 > > > > Thanks Brendan, I really appreciate your effort in that bug. Please > let me know if you want to comaintain jack and/or ffado in Fedora. > > Cheers, > Orcan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:00:09 -0400 > From: Christopher Antila <crantila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: JACK in F15 > To: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <201104162100.14252.crantila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii" > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi: > > I'm not clear what's going on here. Is this a bug that will be fixed? Is it a > change for Fedora 15 and all future releases? > > If it's a change, then it should be in the Release Notes and the official Fedora > documentation for JACK.[0] If somebody can help me figure out what to do (that > is, Jack in F15 is different from JACK in F14), then I will make my best effort > to have it included in both places for the official release. > > Otherwise, I will have time to figure it out only after the release of F15. > Although I can withhold the Musicians' Guide until it's updated, the Release > Notes would be published without this information. I'm not sure if it's > possible to update the Release Notes after publication, unless it's about > something that would make your computer explode, so I'd really appreciate if > somebody would help out now. > > > Thanks, > Christopher. > > [0] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Musicians_Guide/sect- > Musicians_Guide-Using_JACK.html > > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Brendan Jones wrote: > > > On 04/17/2011 09:16 AM, William Blackburn wrote: > > >> Maybe someone can write a how-to? i'll write it if you tell me how to > > >> set it up. a short explanation should do me > > > > > > Hi Bill > > > > > > there is some documentation here: > > > /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora > > > > Hi all, > > > > If you folks think that the above README.Fedora documentation file > > needs an update, now it is a good time to suggest changes. > > > > Especially, the pulseaudio part needs a hand. I don't (want to) know > > how to make jack work nicely with pulseaudio, but if you have some > > guideline, I won't mind including in the README.Fedora file. > > > > > There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault. > > > there are some workarounds listed here: > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392 > > > > Thanks Brendan, I really appreciate your effort in that bug. Please > > let me know if you want to comaintain jack and/or ffado in Fedora. > > > > Cheers, > > Orcan > > _______________________________________________ > > music mailing list > > music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNqjueAAoJEInCktGVqZ8VoNwH+gMJ1rYdBTzkTg6j7QJ6Xecj > s9Uxts2dsOGXboQgiLG7TzAzNf/2oNOcdni/SCuxftrMTFhrk1zvc4qX91S3I2Ba > GC4LuYE02f+Dp/Jh9SqlCxpz4Xz3Fp5zeVpP9V36Mp+4ixOjYKBnGIzoBxXa9Gfs > aTnaqW4I+f06DlStTDqJMyyw1P/5dADtiBQWceSgIXS4zw82Y9T6n1oHFNGe18jk > pYORxnuR7Amgwf9+o9eZjWfFiomwzX7DeRGTnk3giS5wruIiIDf1DaZQxvzZhEn9 > 1lvU6JlIzfFCPpvKBlFxnlAje/fb/Km8Ptgur9PGyTtZLzEvTg8HDF1LTQkKbiA= > =MkjJ > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 11:26:28 +1000 > From: Brendan Jones <brendan.jones.it@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: JACK in F15 > To: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <4DAA41C4.2050200@xxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > > On 04/17/2011 11:00 AM, Christopher Antila wrote: > > I'm not clear what's going on here. Is this a bug that will be fixed? Is it a > > change for Fedora 15 and all future releases? > > > The error lies in the linker/toolchain that was used to build libffado. > I'm not sure exactly what the implications are here, but do know that > the scope of the problem is far wider than just jack/libffado. > > I'll wait until the binutils maintainer completes his investigation, > before commenting on what the final outcome will be, but I'm sure we can > come up with a solution prior to F15 release. > > Even if F15 shipped with the current linker we could patch libffado to > use a different one (ld.gold for example). > > For those users who are not using firewire interfaces simply moving > /deleting /usr/lib64/jack/jack_firewire.so / or > /usr/lib/jack/jack_firewire.so will enable jackd to start. > > In the meantime, I will try and prepare a working libffado package for > testing > > Stay tuned. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 21:51:58 -0400 > From: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: JACK in F15 > To: Christopher Antila <crantila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Message-ID: <BANLkTimepV_rjKhA4QNf8OusuDU+GO4GJA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Christopher Antila wrote: > > Hi: > > > > I'm not clear what's going on here. Is this a bug that will be fixed? Is it a > > change for Fedora 15 and all future releases? > > > > It is a bug, possibly in the compiler/linker tool chain. But we are > not sure yet. People are working on it. > > > If it's a change, then it should be in the Release Notes and the official Fedora > > documentation for JACK.[0] > > The pulseaudio part of this documentation is old too. There is no such > group as pulse-rt anymore. There hasn't been one for a while. > > > If somebody can help me figure out what to do (that > > is, Jack in F15 is different from JACK in F14), then I will make my best effort > > to have it included in both places for the official release. > > > > Otherwise, I will have time to figure it out only after the release of F15. > > Although I can withhold the Musicians' Guide until it's updated, the Release > > Notes would be published without this information. I'm not sure if it's > > possible to update the Release Notes after publication, unless it's about > > something that would make your computer explode, so I'd really appreciate if > > somebody would help out now. > > > > I don't expect any changes from the user side. I have been using the > updated jack on F-14 for a couple weeks. Everything seems the same. > Thank you for helping out. I'll let you know if there is any potential > changes in the future. > > Cheers, > Orcan > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > music mailing list > music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music > > End of music Digest, Vol 48, Issue 7 > Hi Bill > > there is some documentation here: > /usr/share/doc/jack-audio-connection-kit-1.9.7/README.Fedora > > There is currently an issue which causes jack to segfault. > there are some workarounds listed here: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=684392 > > Let me know if you need more info > > regards, > > Brendan > > Brendan, I decided to fallback and install Fedora 14. Thanks for your help and I will still help write up the README if it needs an edit. I hope I posted correctly. :) Thanks, Bill **********************************
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