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> Subject: music Digest, Vol 44, Issue 16
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> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 07:54:50 +0000
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> 1. Re: music spin development. I am ready to test/help with the
> audio spin. (Christopher Antila)
> 2. supercollider+swing on fedora 13 (Bernardo Barros)
> 3. Re: [sc-users] supercollider+swing on fedora 13
> (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano)
> 4. Re: [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider+swing on fedora 13
> (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano)
> 5. Re: supercollider+swing on fedora 13 (Bernardo Barros)
> 6. Re: [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider+swing on fedora 13
> (Fernando Lopez-Lezcano)
> 7. new packages in Fedora updates-testing (2010-07-23)
> (Orcan Ogetbil)
> 8. Re: music spin development. I am ready to test/help with the
> audio spin. (David Timms)
> 9. Re: Re: music spin development. I am ready to test/help with the
> audio spin. (David Timms)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:40:22 -0400
> From: Christopher Antila <crantila@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] music spin development. I am ready to
> test/help with the audio spin.
> To: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <4C4A1A56.90801@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> It's good to see more people getting involved!
>
> We have lots of (relatively!) easy ideas, like including recent versions
> of software. Why don't we start on the difficult stuff by deciding on a
> target audience? This will help us to determine whether we want to
> bother with a real-time-enabled kernel, exactly what software to
> include, and other things.
>
> Here's my proposed target audience, derived mostly from the FP User base
> page[1], and the other pages in the "About Fedora" series:
>
> Typical User:
> A home user who wants to accomplish all sorts of everyday tasks with one
> distribution, including high-quality audio creation tasks, home office
> tasks, and communications tasks like IM, IRC, and email. This person
> knows enough that, if given instructions, they would be able to make all
> of the modifications and installations for themselves - but now they
> don't have to. The user is already reasonably experienced with using
> most of the software included with the Audio Creation version of Fedora.
>
> There are two important things here to consider: the user is not a
> novice computer-user, because this doesn't follow Fedora's goals; the
> user is making a conscious choice to go with an Audio Creation version,
> rather than the mainstream version, so it should be considerably
> different from the mainstream version. It shouldn't be the kind of
> thing that could be done just as well by spending an hour with
> PackageKit - it should be significantly different, and sufficient
> without further modification for all audio creation purposes.
>
>
> This is my opinion. I hope somebody disagrees, so we can evaluate
> different options!
>
>
> Christopher.
>
> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User_base
>
> On 07/23/2010 05:41 PM, William Blackburn wrote:
> >
> > hello everyone,
> >
> > I apologize for my ramblings this morning about the decision on whether or not to use the real time pre-emption patch. If there is anything I can do to help move the spin forward, just let me know. I am more than willing to help. I think one important aspect may be to put the new version of rakarrack on the spin because the version in the repos is a bit outdated and that particular package is moving very fast. There are instructions on how to build the package on the rakarrack website but I am not experienced enough to know how to incorporate that into the spin. Maybe I can talk to one of the devs and ask him his thoughts on the idea.
> > That's all I have for now. Until next time, ciao!
> >
> > (tertl3)
> >
> > ...
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:14:03 -0300
> From: Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: supercollider+swing on fedora 13
> To: Planet CCRMA list <planetccrma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, sc-users
> <sc-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, fedora-music-list
> <fedora-music-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTi=_cLAO8OuukQHs-YLY_S_A7v_=u=cvL0Jz6HWe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi all!
>
> I'm getting two little troubles here. This is a new computer with a
> fresh install of Fedora 13, so maybe I did something wrong with
> installation.
>
> 1. When I try to do "yum update" I get:
>
> yum update
> Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing/13/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 :
> http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing/13/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml
> Trying other mirror.
> Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for
> repository: planetcore-testing. Please verify its path and try again
>
> Maybe I did something wrong
>
> 2. I installed SuperCollider 3.4 from source. The instalation from
> planet-ccrma packages did not work for me (maybe because of the same
> problem?). The other packages besides sc and pd worked well.
>
> But... I could install supercollider 3.4 from source, no problems. But
> I'm not finding the right package dependencies for SwingOSC. It asks
> "java-6-sun" but I don't find this package in the respos. Any
> hint/shortcut for this?
>
> Thanks!!
> Bernardo
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:00:33 -0700
> From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [sc-users] supercollider+swing on
> fedora 13
> To: sc-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Planet CCRMA list <planetccrma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> fedora-music-list <fedora-music-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <1279929633.8633.29.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 20:14 -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I'm getting two little troubles here. This is a new computer with a
> > fresh install of Fedora 13, so maybe I did something wrong with
> > installation.
> >
> > 1. When I try to do "yum update" I get:
> >
> > yum update
> > Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
> > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing/13/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> > [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 :
> > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing/13/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml
> > Trying other mirror.
> > Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for
> > repository: planetcore-testing. Please verify its path and try again
> >
> > Maybe I did something wrong
>
> No, you did not, the metadata was missing for that particular repository
> (but -testing is disabled by default, you should not have hit this
> unless you enabled it). Anyway, it should be fixed now.
>
> -- Fernando
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:01:01 -0700
> From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider+swing on
> fedora 13
> To: Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: sc-users <sc-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Planet CCRMA list
> <planetccrma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, fedora-music-list
> <fedora-music-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <1279929661.8633.30.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 20:14 -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote:
> > Maybe I did something wrong
> >
> > 2. I installed SuperCollider 3.4 from source.
>
> Hmmm, I'm about to release 3.4 for fc13/12. I've been testing and it is
> fine so far.
>
> > The instalation from
> > planet-ccrma packages did not work for me (maybe because of the same
> > problem?). The other packages besides sc and pd worked well.
>
> How did it fail when you tried to install sc and pd? They should install
> and work out of the box. Do you have any error messages or other
> information?
>
> -- Fernando
>
>
> > But... I could install supercollider 3.4 from source, no problems. But
> > I'm not finding the right package dependencies for SwingOSC. It asks
> > "java-6-sun" but I don't find this package in the respos. Any
> > hint/shortcut for this?
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:25:26 -0300
> From: Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Fedora-music-list] supercollider+swing on fedora 13
> To: Planet CCRMA list <planetccrma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, sc-users
> <sc-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, fedora-music-list
> <fedora-music-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTi=r22WxRs6Pep_eVCsAFzZ=-7z403ERR42-3khB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Sorry, the first one was not difficult. Just change disable=0 in
> etc/yum.repos.d/planetccrma-testing.repo
>
> sorry for the noise.
>
> but still trying swingosc
>
> 2010/7/23, Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2@xxxxxxxxx>:
> > Hi all!
> >
> > I'm getting two little troubles here. This is a new computer with a
> > fresh install of Fedora 13, so maybe I did something wrong with
> > installation.
> >
> > 1. When I try to do "yum update" I get:
> >
> > yum update
> > Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit
> > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing/13/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml:
> > [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404 :
> > http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/mirror/fedora/linux/planetcore/testing/13/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml
> > Trying other mirror.
> > Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for
> > repository: planetcore-testing. Please verify its path and try again
> >
> > Maybe I did something wrong
> >
> > 2. I installed SuperCollider 3.4 from source. The instalation from
> > planet-ccrma packages did not work for me (maybe because of the same
> > problem?). The other packages besides sc and pd worked well.
> >
> > But... I could install supercollider 3.4 from source, no problems. But
> > I'm not finding the right package dependencies for SwingOSC. It asks
> > "java-6-sun" but I don't find this package in the respos. Any
> > hint/shortcut for this?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> > Bernardo
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:57:02 -0700
> From: Fernando Lopez-Lezcano <nando@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [PlanetCCRMA] supercollider+swing on
> fedora 13
> To: Bernardo Barros <bernardobarros2@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: sc-users <sc-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Planet CCRMA list
> <planetccrma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, fedora-music-list
> <fedora-music-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Message-ID: <1279933022.8633.82.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 17:01 -0700, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
> > On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 20:14 -0300, Bernardo Barros wrote:
> > > Maybe I did something wrong
> > >
> > > 2. I installed SuperCollider 3.4 from source.
> >
> > Hmmm, I'm about to release 3.4 for fc13/12. I've been testing and it is
> > fine so far.
>
> I just released sc 3.4 packages for fc13/fc12... It is now built
> natively on x86_64 (woohoo!) but I have not tested that build other than
> starting sclang in a virtual machine.
>
> In fc12 I have tested with two big applications, in fc13 just lightly to
> check it does start.
>
> -- Fernando
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 21:55:44 -0400
> From: Orcan Ogetbil <oget.fedora@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: new packages in Fedora updates-testing
> (2010-07-23)
> To: Planet CCRMA list <planetccrma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
> music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID:
> <AANLkTinm1X4D=qRH9keTMsMMk1wicNz+3c6UHtwgsRmB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi all,
> We have 1 new package, 2 new updates:
>
> lv2-fil-plugins:
> new lv2 flitering plugin
> F-13: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lv2-fil-plugins-2.0-3.fc13
>
> F-12: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/lv2-fil-plugins-2.0-3.fc12
>
> mscore:
> bugfix release
> F-13: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mscore-0.9.6.1-1.fc13
>
> F-12: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/mscore-0.9.6.1-1.fc12
>
> zynaddsubfx:
> This one comes with a brand new dssi subpackage: zynaddsubfx-dssi
> Same synth, but in dssi format.
>
> F-13: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zynaddsubfx-2.4.1-1.fc13
>
> F-12: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/zynaddsubfx-2.4.1-1.fc12
>
> As usual, you can leave feedback in the above links.
>
> Orcan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:54:45 +1000
> From: David Timms <dtimms@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: music spin development. I am ready to
> test/help with the audio spin.
> To: music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Message-ID: <4C4A9C45.6040806@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 24/07/10 07:41, William Blackburn wrote:
> > If there is anything I
> > can do to help move the spin forward, just let me know. I am more than
> > willing to help.
> Please see:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AudioCreationSpinDevelopment
>
> - put yourself in the list of people
> - add any tasks you think we need to do to make the spin a reality
> - add yourself to any of the tasks
> - add / edit comment on the list of packages that should make it into
> the spin
> - test and leave comments for any audio package announced on this list
>
> > I think one important aspect may be to put the new version of rakarrack
> AFAICT the current release of 0.5.8 is what is now in Fedora 12,13 and
> has been in development for a while.
>
> On a side note: general email list etiquette applies here as well:
> - don't top post
> - only quote / include text that you are actually replying to
> (especially not whole list archives of 100kB !). Find the point you want
> to address and quote just that part.
>
> You might like to set yourself to remove individual, rather than archive
> mail. This helps everyone else on the list since many people use
> threaded email readers, that keep all messages that are "reply to" in
> the same thread.
>
> Cheers, David Timms.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
>Message: 9
>
>On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 17:54:45 David Timms wrote,
>
>You might like to set yourself to remove individual, rather than archive
> mail.
>How do I do this?
>
>Also, I tried to download your torrent and I got an error.  A tracker error i believe. 
>
>AFAICT the current release of 0.5.8 is what is now in Fedora 12,13 and
> has been in development for a while
>The is a version .6 with some updates but that may be too new to add.  I am not sure.
>
>Do you plan on adding the RT kernel in the future?
>
>Ciao, William Blackburn
>
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