Christopher, I wouldn't classify myself as an "absolute beginner" but I just did: yum install qtractor which installed: qtractor x86_64 0.4.6-1.fc14 rubberband x86_64 1.5.0-1.fc12 I then typed: qtractor and got: qtractor: symbol lookup error: qtractor: undefined symbol: _ZN9QListData11detach_growEPii - I've got no idea where to go from here . . Thanks, Phil. On 2010-07-10 06:03, Christopher Antila wrote: > Thanks for your response and comments. One of the biggest issues that > I've had to face is the extensive documentation, explanation, and > instructions required to do even simple audio tasks - as you noted. > > Also, because I wanted to include a wide variety of software, no > particular topic is covered beyond what I might consider a "basic > understanding." With that in mind, a particular focus has been to get > the user operating with the minimum knowledge they need to both complete > simple tasks, and to find ways to complete complex tasks. It's > difficult to say how successful this has been. > > As the author of the Guide, I would greatly appreciate the input that > could be provided by an absolute beginner (with audio software) who is > nonetheless determined to learn - this is one of the primary target > audiences! In particular, once the Ardour portion has been completed, > it would be useful to know how to further include people who have never > done audio recording work. > > As for whether your brother is the person for this task, I will leave to > you to decide :) > > > Thanks again, > Christopher. > > On 07/09/2010 03:45 AM, Nicholas Manojlovic wrote: >> I wouldn't mind trying this guide out on my brother. He wants to record but >> is confused by how to get started. >> >> I think it would be helpful if he had a 'click here, then here' sort of >> guide and some example workflows. >> >> Ie, how to start recording in Ardour. >> >> Install ardour and Qjackctl. >> >> Open Qjackctl. etc. >> >> Open Ardour. Add a track. Press Shift E. Click on 'Input' etc..Check what >> program is monitoring. Arm the track, go. >> >> Adding a drum track. Install Hydrogen. Open Hydrogen. Add a stereo >> track/Switch to JACK mode/etc.. >> >> Obviously a guide like this would end up being quite detailed, and would >> probably require some sort of javascript 'pop up' to a glossary for terms a >> novice might not understand. >> >> It'd be difficult - but I think it would be helpful. As it stands I wouldn't >> be confident just sending him a link to the docs because there is no simple >> entry point to get started recording music. >> >> My 2c >> >> Cheers >> Nicholas >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Christopher Antila<crantila@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: >> >>> Hello: >>> >>> The Docs SIG is working on a guide for some of Fedora's music and audio >>> software, to be released with Fedora 14. The Musicians' Guide is being >>> written primarily by me, as part of the Fedora Summer Coding program. >>> Some of the first drafts are complete, with others being added regularly. >>> >>> I would greatly appreciate the help of all willing parties, to read the >>> documents, establish and ensure consistency, and check for grammar. You >>> are even invited to use the documents to learn the software, if you wish >>> - all programs contain a tutorial where concepts are explained in the >>> context of producing a useful sound file (although I assume that most >>> subscribers to this list will already know). >>> >>> The following web page will be updated regularly, as new material for >>> testing is written. >>> >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Crantila/FSC/Testing >>> >>> All comments and any assistance are appreciated. In particular, if you >>> would prefer alternate programs for certain tasks, you can submit >>> requests with reasons - I know there has been some preference shown for >>> Denemo and MuseScore over Frescobaldi, for instance, and there are tons >>> of helpful little programs for synthesis and DSP. Changes and additions >>> will not make it into the Fedora 14 Guide. >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> Christopher. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> music mailing list >>> music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > music mailing list > music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music -- Philip Rhoades GPO Box 3411 Sydney NSW 2001 Australia E-mail: phil@xxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ music mailing list music@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/music