On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 05:51:27PM -0400, Joe Brockmeier wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matthew Miller" <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: "Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@xxxxxxx> > > > > I'd say forget about the name; it's one with some good history and name > > > recognition. Instead, rehabilitate it. Show the world that developers > > > *do* care about whether Rawhide actually works and that they actually > > > want to see bug reports. Then people might actually start coming back. > > > > All of the above said, I'm cautiously open to this possibility, if if > > there's agreement that we can make it work. > > I'm +1 to this vs. finding a new name. Returning Rawhide to its "former glory" > is much more interesting than picking a new name and trying to explain that > to users and all the work that goes with that. (Both are going to be work, > but I prefer the work of "let's fix Rawhide and tell that story to the world," > over "let's fix Rawhide and rename it." +1, and this is my favorite reasoning so far. In the same way that we've spent several years rehabilitating Fedora from: * bleeding edge -> cutting edge without the blood * constantly breaking -> rarely breaking * don't bother, just reinstall N+1 -> upgrade works pretty darn well, mostly We should also consider this investment in rehabilitating Rawhide. People know the name, let's not take away the name recognition (and the value of rehabilitation stories). -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx List info or to change your subscription: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing