----- Original Message ----- > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > "The post you point to is nearly a week old, not a release > > > announcement for the beta. Perhaps there is a better choice for a > > > community-generated release announcement (though I didn't see one > > > in a quick look), but what you point to is not it, I'm afraid. We > > > generally prefer those kinds of announcements over press releases > > > (with proper or improper subjects), fwiw." > > > jake one of LWN editors. > > > > > > In short if we would have made an announcement they would have > > > published it over the press releases ( which says even more about > > > the quality of the news site ) so why was our FPL first and > > > foremost not focusing on getting our own announcement out the > > > door > > > instead of theirs? > > > > > > Who is ultimately responsible for ensuring release announcements > > > go > > > out the door? > > > > For Alpha and Beta, as long as i can remember, release engineering > > has done the announcement. For final, the FPL does the > > announcement. > > That said, this may be some sort of "historical knowledge of how it > > happens" thing and not actually an SOP- in looking through releng's > > sop's i didnt see anything there, and the marketing sop is not > > completed. > > > > But at the end of the day - yeah, that's me in the ultimately > > responsible spot. I ddin't notice the lack thereof, nobody yelled, > > i > > screwed up. It happens. It's not a case of me "prioritizing" one > > over the other, though. > > Well, it's also my fault - not rechecking the true state of things :( > As currently it's the part of Readiness meeting, checking the logs - > "Beta announce will be firmed up for Tuesday (reported by rbergeron) > (jreznik, 19:38:53)". So, what's the state of Marketing sop right > now? > > Also what we need is to educate the news, bloggers etc. as it's > quite common Fedora is referred as Red Hat product and for people > not directly involved in Fedora Project it could look like that > and it's harder to understand the relationship. Do we have any > guide (on Wiki) we could point people to? In case we saw this and > to try to fix it? > > It still means we need it out asap - anybody from Marketing around? > We have https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_Alpha_release_announcement > but not for Beta :( > > Second action item is to explain "in marketing way" the delays > behind F18 release (where the slip announcements are not very > useful) to community. Ambassadors already asked for that... I'm > willing to help with it (or both). Ok, based on F17 Beta/F18 Alpha and "that" announcement - I started the Beta one [1] - please take a look - or extend it with more moo-ish as for Alpha ;-) Would be great to get it out asap. What are the places we send Beta announcement? And it could be a nice place where to mention the delays, I'll try to write it there too - again, any help from real writers and marketing people welcomed :) Jaroslav [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F18_Beta_release_announcement > Jaroslav > > > > > > > Will we be seeing the same thing happening again with final? > > > > I sure as heck hope that we do have a bit of lessons-learned > > mentality around here. > > > > > > > > JBG > > > > > > 1. > > > http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Red-Hat-Fedora-Beta-Spherical-Cow-Linux,19345.html > > > > > > -- > > > marketing mailing list > > > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > > > > -- > > marketing mailing list > > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
