On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 08:03:40PM -0600, inode0 wrote: >> view of Fedora even within Fedora. Fedora is different things to >> different people and unfortunately one of the persistent, although >> perhaps waning, issues we deal with promoting Fedora is people put off >> by the impression that is really all Fedora is. So I'd like to see > > I hear understand this point of view, but would like to counterbalance it. > (Speaking here as a Fedoraean, not a Red Hatter, although I am that too.) > > Fedora is particularly interesting to some people *because* of our > relationship with Red Hat, and that's a very nice thing for us. Both Fedora > and Red Hat take huge benefits from that mutual, bidirectional connection -- > *as do users of both operating systems*. Actually that is exactly why it was particularly interesting to me years ago. It did not take long after getting involved to see how much more it was though. > There is a very real risk of Fedora being a self-referential toy operating > system no one really uses (where "no one" excepts a few strange people like > me who have been running it as my sole OS for years). Instead, we should > emphasize and take advantage of our ecosystem -- Fedora, RHEL, EPEL, > CentOS/Scientific Linux, the whole shebang. Each part makes the whole thing > stronger. I agree with this but the fact is that I don't see any of that even mentioned in press releases and similar reporting except for the connection to RHEL which is why people not inside the project come to think it is only about RHEL. And, of course, the many people who contribute without external affiliations to other identifiable parts of this ecosystem are always left out. If we can find a way to broaden this sort of message I'm all for that. John -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing