On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Robyn Bergeron <rbergero@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 11/27/2012 11:32 AM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > "Subject: Red Hat Releases Fedora 18 Beta" > > What the hell is going on here last time I checked it was Fedora's community > that released Fedora. I would like to see these say "Red Hat Announces the Release of ..." instead but perhaps that is only because I have historically been rather sensitive to this stuff as well. Red Hat is proud of Fedora and that comes out in virtually everything Red Hat releases if one can read through the announcements with a clear head. > .. > I do my best to share those lessons learned, and even point to "how we do > it," as far as "how Fedora's interactions with internal Red Hat departments" > go. Perhaps in this case it would be worthwhile for marketing to document > some tips and "things to remember" as far as working with the Fedora > community for the Red Hat PR folks - in conjunction with Anna - so that it > isn't something that is known by "just one person." Things like - where you > can always find Fedora's mission statement, the schedule, etc., as well as > "please don't do this" type of stuff - such as the case that instigated this > mail. :) One thing I noticed in this announcement as well as something similar in a fairly recent Red Hat blog post is some emphasis on Fedora's role as a place where new technology is developed and tested for possible inclusion in Red Hat's commercial products. While that is true and it is a motivation for many Fedora contributors it isn't the universal view of Fedora even within Fedora. Fedora is different things to different people and unfortunately one of the persistent, although perhaps waning, issues we deal with promoting Fedora is people put off by the impression that is really all Fedora is. So I'd like to see some care around dealing with this. I don't want to discourage Red Hat from saying *this* is why Fedora is important to us entirely. I think that message is important too. But maybe we can boilerplate something that also emphasizes other reasons people love and contribute to Fedora so it is *one of many* reasons Fedora is important. > All that said - and in spite of my "tinfoil hat" comments - I do appreciate > your calling out of things like this, Johann, as well as anyone else who > sees things like this - there is always opportunity for further education > and refining of processes, and really, it just keeps things honest and > frank. Yeah, although it makes our community look a bit insecure when the calling out is done on LWN. Having a discussion internally is great. John -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
