On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Arnav Kalra <arnavkalra007@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Distrowatch collects all this stuff automatically. Maybe we can just link to > it. Distrowatch, unless I'm missing a detail, collects/reposts announcements from the distributions themselves, and reviews from mainstream press, but they don't aggregate a lot of the other news that is reported in the mainstream press (reporting and/or dissection of decisions, interviews with specific contributors, deep dives into specific features, etc.) So I don't know that we'd necessarily want to rely on it as a single point of collection. > > > >> >> I am the person who did it for multiple releases. It eventually got to >> the point where it was too low of a priority for me to do, when I had >> multiple jobs (FPL, program manager). >> >> My main gripes with this are: >> >> * OMG, pain in the butt. Seriously. Wiki tables aren't awesome fun; >> we are collecting the title, the link, the author, the date (not the >> date it posted to the list, but the publication date), the language. >> That's a lot of back and forth between multiple windows of cut and >> pasting. Not to sound like a wuss, but when I did these in batches, >> it would normally take me a number of hours to go through 10-20 posts. >> >> * Return on investment. We collect the articles .... and ??? We never >> did follow-up, except for the instances where someone would say >> something horribly wrong or incorrect in an article and someone would >> generally reach out to the author and try to correct them. Ideally, >> we'd take the list of people and make sure they were all on a press >> list for release time, or do something like count the number of news >> postings we'd get on a release day, and use that as a benchmark for >> the next release to measure if we were getting more press, less press, >> etc. Or identify reasons/causes of attracting press attention, >> outside of releases, and fine-tune our outreach. But we don't do >> anything right now, except still the occasional "correct the author's >> misinformation" type of thing, so going through and manually >> collecting things is hard. >> >> In my dream universe, I've always wanted to see a simple web tool >> where someone - instead of cutting/pasting into an email - could >> cut/paste into a small web app where they could put the title, date, >> author, etc. and then it would automagically post that in pretty table >> format to a wiki. Encouraging people to do the wiki entry on their >> own when doing an in-the-news posting to the mailing list didn't yield >> many results, and making it a requirement I suspect would just cut >> down on the number of notifications we receive. I am a fan of dead >> simple and this, while sort of dead simple, assuming you know how to >> use wiki tables, still sucks in terms of time/window swapping/omg i >> forgot the extra bracket and it hosed my whole page/omg i closed the >> window accidentally after entering 4 articles (though this is far less >> of a problem now with the reopen closed tab thing, but when that >> wasn't around, omg, I wanted to stab little kittens when I did that). >> >> One other thing to consider is that nowadays, there's a fine line >> between "news by people who write news articles for news sites" and >> "random blog posts/reviews of Fedora on personal blogs" - we often mix >> both of these into this list, and though sometimes they'll qualify as >> both, or someone's blog post will be so controversial it is news in >> and of itself... I don't really consider the latter to be a "news" >> type of thing, though perhaps the collection of reviews on its own >> might merit some sort of other scrutiny. I could definitely see >> someone going through non-news blog reviews and doing a round-up of >> the most common review points/feedback/perceptions that we are seeing >> from people, and seeing if there was a way to pass that feedback along >> somehow (to fesco, or I don't know who.) >> > > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing