On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Ankur Sinha <sanjay.ankur@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Wed, 2012-08-29 at 07:41 +0530, Arnav Kalra wrote: >> +1 >> I would like to help with this. I am active on Google plus. >> We can also create a list of people who blog or post about Linux. >> We should monitor their content for anything related to fedora and >> reply if needed. > > We already monitor the webs for fedora postings. Any news/publications > about fedora can be sent to the list with [in the news] in the subject. > > We're supposed to be collating them all on the wiki page. Not sure how > that's been going either. Another thing that needs reactivation? :/ > > As you'll see, there isn't even a page for F17[1]! :$ I am the person who did it for multiple releases. It eventually got to the point where it was too low of a priority for me to do, when I had multiple jobs (FPL, program manager). My main gripes with this are: * OMG, pain in the butt. Seriously. Wiki tables aren't awesome fun; we are collecting the title, the link, the author, the date (not the date it posted to the list, but the publication date), the language. That's a lot of back and forth between multiple windows of cut and pasting. Not to sound like a wuss, but when I did these in batches, it would normally take me a number of hours to go through 10-20 posts. * Return on investment. We collect the articles .... and ??? We never did follow-up, except for the instances where someone would say something horribly wrong or incorrect in an article and someone would generally reach out to the author and try to correct them. Ideally, we'd take the list of people and make sure they were all on a press list for release time, or do something like count the number of news postings we'd get on a release day, and use that as a benchmark for the next release to measure if we were getting more press, less press, etc. Or identify reasons/causes of attracting press attention, outside of releases, and fine-tune our outreach. But we don't do anything right now, except still the occasional "correct the author's misinformation" type of thing, so going through and manually collecting things is hard. In my dream universe, I've always wanted to see a simple web tool where someone - instead of cutting/pasting into an email - could cut/paste into a small web app where they could put the title, date, author, etc. and then it would automagically post that in pretty table format to a wiki. Encouraging people to do the wiki entry on their own when doing an in-the-news posting to the mailing list didn't yield many results, and making it a requirement I suspect would just cut down on the number of notifications we receive. I am a fan of dead simple and this, while sort of dead simple, assuming you know how to use wiki tables, still sucks in terms of time/window swapping/omg i forgot the extra bracket and it hosed my whole page/omg i closed the window accidentally after entering 4 articles (though this is far less of a problem now with the reopen closed tab thing, but when that wasn't around, omg, I wanted to stab little kittens when I did that). One other thing to consider is that nowadays, there's a fine line between "news by people who write news articles for news sites" and "random blog posts/reviews of Fedora on personal blogs" - we often mix both of these into this list, and though sometimes they'll qualify as both, or someone's blog post will be so controversial it is news in and of itself... I don't really consider the latter to be a "news" type of thing, though perhaps the collection of reviews on its own might merit some sort of other scrutiny. I could definitely see someone going through non-news blog reviews and doing a round-up of the most common review points/feedback/perceptions that we are seeing from people, and seeing if there was a way to pass that feedback along somehow (to fesco, or I don't know who.) -robyn > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_press_archive > > -- > Thanks, > Warm regards, > Ankur: "FranciscoD" > > Please only print if necessary. > > Looking to contribute to Fedora? Look here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Join_SIG > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha > http://dodoincfedora.wordpress.com/ > > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing