Feel free to wiki-fy as you please. I'll be online in a bit; trying to get my body to convert caffeine into energy first :) -robyn On 2/15/10, Paul W. Frields <stickster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 02:53:11AM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: >> In the marketing meeting / post-meeting SOP discussion last week, the >> timeline was decided of putting out a "call for participation" on the >> Talking Points on either Friday or Monday. Since it is now Monday, >> we need to do it today :) Which means we need to (1) finalize the SOP, >> (2) send out the email to the appropriate lists. >> >> Ryan Rix and I worked up the Talking Points SOP this evening / >> morning. A (very) rough draft is up at >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_SOP. (We were both >> pretty tired but decided to knock out a first go at it; there is >> probably some good content missing from what we discussed in last >> week's marketing meeting, and post-marketing-meeting Talking Points >> SOP discussion. Eyeballs! Feedback! Please!) >> >> If anyone is around in the morning (7am Pacific, 10am Eastern, ish) - >> I will be online finishing the editing on the SOP and sending out the >> email CFP on F13 Talking Points. If anyone wants to hop on and help, >> that would be AWESOME - or feel free to contribute on the wiki page if >> you get to it before I do. One thing I would like to add to the SOP >> (since I just thought of it 3 seconds ago!) is the content of the >> email to be sent out requesting participation in Talking Points >> development. If someone would like to jump in and do that, that would >> be great. > > The page looks great. I think you can also find some helpful > information on the [[Category:Talking Points]] page that will help > fill in "how to choose points." In fact, I'd be in favor of removing > a bunch of that material from the Category page, and just linking back > to the [[Talking points SOP]], to avoid duplication of content (and > confusion about where the governing stuff is). > >> Finally, the other thing discussed in the marketing meeting was that >> we should pre-populate the F13 Talking Points page with some items as >> a point to start from. A number of community members have already >> jumped in and done some filling in the blanks there, so I think we >> have a sufficient starting point to go from - but feel free to jump in >> and add anything that is missing. The F13 Talking Points page is at >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points. >> >> David Ramsey did an awesome job filling in some of the proposed >> Talking Points, and Ryan mailed him earlier this evening / morning to >> see if he would be interested in talking with us about how / why he >> picked his proposed Talking Points, so we can add some of that >> information to the SOP. I don't think this part of the SOP >> necessarily needs to be finished prior to us requesting Talking Point >> proposals, but I think it would be insightful to other community >> members. David said he'd be happy to talk with us about it, so I'd >> just like to say, THANKS DAVID! - and hopefully we can synchronize on >> that soon. > > I have some changes I'd like to propose to the talking points that are > on the page now, should I just edit the wiki? > > Desktop users/everyone: > > * I'd include the state of free video drivers (esp. start of 3D > support in nouveau) here. That's a huge story that we need to drive > home, because so many people say that 3D support is what keeps them > on a proprietary NVidia driver. > > * The new user account dialog is a big step forward in usability and > deserves some love. I'd combine this with color management and > NetworkManager upgrades as "general desktop improvements." > > Sysadmins: > > * What about Zarafa being available, which is the first complete > groupware (mail/calendar/etc.) solution available in Fedora? > > * NFS features need to be combined. > > * I'd advocate for removing the SSSD listing because of the difficulty > of explaining the impact to a lay press reader, and because this > change will not affect many people. > > * NFS and the btrfs rollback feature need to be explained in simple > terms, or else dropped off the list. > > Developers: > > * IntelliJ IDEA and NetBeans could be combined as general "You can > find this package in Fedora 13" features. > > * The Python 3 feature should be expanded to include the better Python > debugging features in Fedora 13, which will affect many devs using > both Python 2.6.x and Python 3. > > Finally, I think we discussed reserving a section in the talking > points for new spins. This time around we're premiering the Fedora > Moblin(tm) Desktop Edition and Sugar on a Stick. > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com > -- > marketing mailing list > marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing > -- Sent from my mobile device -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing