On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 02:53:11AM -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > In the marketing meeting / post-meeting SOP discussion last week, the > timeline was decided of putting out a "call for participation" on the > Talking Points on either Friday or Monday. Since it is now Monday, > we need to do it today :) Which means we need to (1) finalize the SOP, > (2) send out the email to the appropriate lists. > > Ryan Rix and I worked up the Talking Points SOP this evening / > morning. A (very) rough draft is up at > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Talking_points_SOP. (We were both > pretty tired but decided to knock out a first go at it; there is > probably some good content missing from what we discussed in last > week's marketing meeting, and post-marketing-meeting Talking Points > SOP discussion. Eyeballs! Feedback! Please!) > > If anyone is around in the morning (7am Pacific, 10am Eastern, ish) - > I will be online finishing the editing on the SOP and sending out the > email CFP on F13 Talking Points. If anyone wants to hop on and help, > that would be AWESOME - or feel free to contribute on the wiki page if > you get to it before I do. One thing I would like to add to the SOP > (since I just thought of it 3 seconds ago!) is the content of the > email to be sent out requesting participation in Talking Points > development. If someone would like to jump in and do that, that would > be great. The page looks great. I think you can also find some helpful information on the [[Category:Talking Points]] page that will help fill in "how to choose points." In fact, I'd be in favor of removing a bunch of that material from the Category page, and just linking back to the [[Talking points SOP]], to avoid duplication of content (and confusion about where the governing stuff is). > Finally, the other thing discussed in the marketing meeting was that > we should pre-populate the F13 Talking Points page with some items as > a point to start from. A number of community members have already > jumped in and done some filling in the blanks there, so I think we > have a sufficient starting point to go from - but feel free to jump in > and add anything that is missing. The F13 Talking Points page is at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points. > > David Ramsey did an awesome job filling in some of the proposed > Talking Points, and Ryan mailed him earlier this evening / morning to > see if he would be interested in talking with us about how / why he > picked his proposed Talking Points, so we can add some of that > information to the SOP. I don't think this part of the SOP > necessarily needs to be finished prior to us requesting Talking Point > proposals, but I think it would be insightful to other community > members. David said he'd be happy to talk with us about it, so I'd > just like to say, THANKS DAVID! - and hopefully we can synchronize on > that soon. I have some changes I'd like to propose to the talking points that are on the page now, should I just edit the wiki? Desktop users/everyone: * I'd include the state of free video drivers (esp. start of 3D support in nouveau) here. That's a huge story that we need to drive home, because so many people say that 3D support is what keeps them on a proprietary NVidia driver. * The new user account dialog is a big step forward in usability and deserves some love. I'd combine this with color management and NetworkManager upgrades as "general desktop improvements." Sysadmins: * What about Zarafa being available, which is the first complete groupware (mail/calendar/etc.) solution available in Fedora? * NFS features need to be combined. * I'd advocate for removing the SSSD listing because of the difficulty of explaining the impact to a lay press reader, and because this change will not affect many people. * NFS and the btrfs rollback feature need to be explained in simple terms, or else dropped off the list. Developers: * IntelliJ IDEA and NetBeans could be combined as general "You can find this package in Fedora 13" features. * The Python 3 feature should be expanded to include the better Python debugging features in Fedora 13, which will affect many devs using both Python 2.6.x and Python 3. Finally, I think we discussed reserving a section in the talking points for new spins. This time around we're premiering the Fedora Moblin(tm) Desktop Edition and Sugar on a Stick. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
