On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 2:50 PM, David Nalley <david@xxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > At the Events FAD we spent a good chunk of time looking at and working > on some of the Lime Survey dependencies. Unfortunately, they have > modified some (and they claim most) of the bundled libraries, > effectively forking them. We talked about a number of different > mitigation strategies. We can get a number of people involved and try > and get these modifications accepted upstream, however that is likely > at least a month and likely many months of slow moving work, with no > guarantee of success. > > I've included the IRC conversation below that I had with one of the > limesurvey devs. > > We talked about a number of solutions at events FAD, with suggestions > ranging from, pushing patches upstream, to using different software, > to forking. > The path of least resistance is using different software, and I found > one package called phpESP which looks ok, I haven't found any bundled > libs at all in a really brief perusal of source. The community seems > somewhat active (the latest version was released in Janary) > > Soooo - please take a look and see if it meets MKTG's needs. I may try > and package this tonight regardless of MKTG's decision, but if someone > wants to beat me to it, I have a 4 hour trip back, so feel free to > pick it up. > > > > 09:35 c_schmitz: sorry for the lag - basically the issue is that you > guys bundle libraries (which every web app > does, and we break them out and bundle the package separately) but you > guys have modified at least one of > those libraries, so packaging the upstream library doesn't really > help, as we are missing those changes. > 09:42 yes, ke4qqq > 09:42 we modified almost all liberaries > 09:42 due to bugs etc > 09:43 we communicated these bugs to the devs of these these libraries mostly > 09:43 but they are very slow to fix > 09:44 so I don't recommend to break out any of teh packages > 09:44 unfortunately our packaging guidelines don't permit us to not - > (and debian is the same way) > 09:45 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries > 09:45 well, then you have a problem > 09:50 I would not know how to solve this > 09:51 using your bundled libraries will introduce certain bugs > 09:51 bundled libraries=separate packages > 09:51 yes > 09:52 which on the other hand will mean that we will have bogus bugs > reported to us > 09:52 for which we can't really give support > 09:52 well we are actually discussing this at a Fedora Activity day - > and hopefully we can add an extra voice to > get those patches accepted upstream > 09:52 won't be a short process unfortunately > 09:53 but in the long run hopefully better for everyone > 09:53 sure, but this is a huge problem with every packaging > 09:53 Ubuntu packaging is a little more relaxed about that > 09:53 yes it is (/me packages a number of webapps for Fedora and deal > with it a lot) > 09:54 I totally appreciate your effort > 09:54 It will help the LImeSurvey project to have to as a Linux package > 09:54 better: Fedora package > 09:55 you should also get in touch with nijaba > 09:55 (Nicolas Barcet) > 09:55 since he is the Ubunut packager > 09:55 Ubuntu > 09:55 ok, I'll do so > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) > > iEYEARECAAYFAktl3wwACgkQkZOYj+cNI1cpdACfSO+tmU+lgnIzAkHEIhWNGqS4 > Vw0AoK/QwYMUWXRPpRvlYd9QWUg4oJ3K > =anrn > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > Meant to include a link: http://www.butterfat.net/wiki/Projects/phpESP/ -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
