-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At the Events FAD we spent a good chunk of time looking at and working on some of the Lime Survey dependencies. Unfortunately, they have modified some (and they claim most) of the bundled libraries, effectively forking them. We talked about a number of different mitigation strategies. We can get a number of people involved and try and get these modifications accepted upstream, however that is likely at least a month and likely many months of slow moving work, with no guarantee of success. I've included the IRC conversation below that I had with one of the limesurvey devs. We talked about a number of solutions at events FAD, with suggestions ranging from, pushing patches upstream, to using different software, to forking. The path of least resistance is using different software, and I found one package called phpESP which looks ok, I haven't found any bundled libs at all in a really brief perusal of source. The community seems somewhat active (the latest version was released in Janary) Soooo - please take a look and see if it meets MKTG's needs. I may try and package this tonight regardless of MKTG's decision, but if someone wants to beat me to it, I have a 4 hour trip back, so feel free to pick it up. 09:35 c_schmitz: sorry for the lag - basically the issue is that you guys bundle libraries (which every web app does, and we break them out and bundle the package separately) but you guys have modified at least one of those libraries, so packaging the upstream library doesn't really help, as we are missing those changes. 09:42 yes, ke4qqq 09:42 we modified almost all liberaries 09:42 due to bugs etc 09:43 we communicated these bugs to the devs of these these libraries mostly 09:43 but they are very slow to fix 09:44 so I don't recommend to break out any of teh packages 09:44 unfortunately our packaging guidelines don't permit us to not - (and debian is the same way) 09:45 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries 09:45 well, then you have a problem 09:50 I would not know how to solve this 09:51 using your bundled libraries will introduce certain bugs 09:51 bundled libraries=separate packages 09:51 yes 09:52 which on the other hand will mean that we will have bogus bugs reported to us 09:52 for which we can't really give support 09:52 well we are actually discussing this at a Fedora Activity day - and hopefully we can add an extra voice to get those patches accepted upstream 09:52 won't be a short process unfortunately 09:53 but in the long run hopefully better for everyone 09:53 sure, but this is a huge problem with every packaging 09:53 Ubuntu packaging is a little more relaxed about that 09:53 yes it is (/me packages a number of webapps for Fedora and deal with it a lot) 09:54 I totally appreciate your effort 09:54 It will help the LImeSurvey project to have to as a Linux package 09:54 better: Fedora package 09:55 you should also get in touch with nijaba 09:55 (Nicolas Barcet) 09:55 since he is the Ubunut packager 09:55 Ubuntu 09:55 ok, I'll do so -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Use GnuPG with Firefox : http://getfiregpg.org (Version: 0.7.10) iEYEARECAAYFAktl3wwACgkQkZOYj+cNI1cpdACfSO+tmU+lgnIzAkHEIhWNGqS4 Vw0AoK/QwYMUWXRPpRvlYd9QWUg4oJ3K =anrn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- marketing mailing list marketing@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/marketing
