Available in wiki format here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Marketing_IRC_log_20081002 12:00 < themayor> okay, let the meeting come to order 12:00 < quaid> btw 12:00 < themayor> we'll wait a couple minutes to let people file in, but please lets start the ROLL CALL 12:00 < quaid> we did get the other meeting slot in #fedora-meeting 12:00 * lcafiero plays the role of larry cafiero 12:00 * gregdek will be in and out, call me by name if you need me 12:00 < quaid> I presumptively put us on the meeting channel page for this time, too, to hold the slot 12:01 < themayor> quaid: awesome, yeah i knew you got it, but just wanted to make sure we dont lose anyone 12:01 < quaid> ok, then _next_week_ we'll start telling people before the meeting to head to that channel instead of stay here? 12:01 < themayor> yeah absolutely 12:01 < themayor> in the announce i said this should be the last week in here 12:01 < kushal> so Roll Call ? 12:02 < mizmo> yo 12:02 < themayor> yeah roll call 12:02 * quaid is still Karsten 12:02 < kushal> Kushal Das 12:02 < ria> Ria Das 12:02 * lcafiero still larry cafiero 12:04 * ke4qqq is here 12:04 < kushal> please continue 12:05 < kushal> why we stopped ? 12:05 < themayor> we are waiting for role call 12:05 < fugolini> FrancescoUgolini 12:06 * fugolini will be afk for 5mins 12:06 < kushal> themayor, start the class :p 12:06 < themayor> okay awesome 12:06 < themayor> lets go 12:06 < themayor> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing/Tasks 12:06 < themayor> pull that up 12:07 -!- Subhodip [n=subhodip@fedora/subhodip] has quit ["Laters .."] 12:07 < themayor> we are continuing discussion of our long term goals 12:08 < themayor> basically as a summary 12:08 < themayor> last meeting 12:08 * fugolini brb 12:09 < themayor> we all agreed that we need to marketing featuring better 12:09 < themayor> and we need more management of press leading up to and at release time 12:10 < themayor> so based on that, quaid updated the task list 12:10 < themayor> is stickster around? 12:10 < themayor> maybe he can update us on press efforts for the forthcoming release 12:11 < ke4qqq> stickster: is in hospital visiting his mother iirc 12:11 < themayor> ah yeah 12:11 < themayor> sorry 12:12 < themayor> i forgot i read that befoe 12:12 < quaid> Caroline is back as our @redhat.com PR liaison 12:12 < quaid> paul has written to some lists about the major features they are focusing on in press work 12:12 < themayor> yup and yup 12:12 < themayor> caroline is back from leave 12:13 < quaid> btw, I recommended we add "XFS available during installation" to that list (although it's been in since F9?); purely as a marketing move and response to the years of complaints :) 12:13 < themayor> we've had that for much longer than f9 actually 12:13 < quaid> ah, guess I did miss that :) 12:13 * quaid pipes down 12:14 < ke4qqq> really?? I don't recall it in f8 12:14 < ke4qqq> but perhaps I missed it 12:14 < themayor> anyway 12:14 < themayor> yes, we should put that in there 12:14 < fugolini> ? 12:16 < themayor> okay anyway, if paul isnt here, lets table the press stuff for next week 12:16 < themayor> next week we need to have a serious discussion of that 12:16 < fugolini> May I ask you a thing 12:16 < fugolini> ? 12:16 < themayor> yes 12:16 < themayor> go ahead 12:16 < fugolini> You talked about press release, but you are referring to en_US press release 12:16 < fugolini> ? 12:16 < fugolini> *are you 12:16 < quaid> sort-of 12:17 < fugolini> ah, ok 12:17 < quaid> we already have a process for release announcements to be fully localized 12:17 < themayor> for the most part, yes 12:17 < themayor> but we have a process for translation of release announcements and whatever 12:17 < quaid> do we want to consider the formal press release be l10nized? 12:17 -!- No5251 [n=No5251@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 12:18 < themayor> if we think we can handle it without significant trouble, why not 12:18 < themayor> ? 12:18 -!- DemonJester [n=DemonJes@fedora/DemonJester] has joined #fedora-mktg 12:18 < fugolini> I was just wondering about the possibility to have a way to push press release around the world, maybe using rh officies 12:18 < fugolini> *offices 12:18 < quaid> I'll talk with Paul about it 12:18 < quaid> the concern, historically, has been 12:19 < quaid> not wanting to show the formal press release in advance, if it gets out it ruins the expectation/relationship with traditional journalists. 12:19 < fugolini> right 12:19 < quaid> anyway, I'll ask Paul if we want to try this time 12:21 < themayor> okay so lets add that as a note to the current task on the list 12:21 < themayor> and lets move on 12:22 < themayor> quaid: update on release announcements 12:22 < quaid> themayor: are you editing the task list as you go? 12:22 < themayor> anything you want to tell us? 12:22 < themayor> quaid: not currently, no, 12:22 < themayor> is there a lock on the page? 12:22 < quaid> The Beta announcement went out fine 12:23 < quaid> it's time to refine the talking points so we can have locale-specific ones based on the talking points. 12:23 * quaid runs some edits on that task list then 12:25 < quaid> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Announcements/TalkingPoints 12:25 < quaid> so let's get on it! 12:25 < quaid> <eoreport> 12:25 < themayor> i agree, localized talking points would be awesome 12:25 < fugolini> +1 12:26 < quaid> we keep waiting until too late in the cycle 12:26 * fugolini hopes he could join the discussion (is a open one?) 12:26 < quaid> partially because it was just me pushing it :) 12:26 < quaid> fugolini: of course! 12:26 < fugolini> thnaks 12:26 < quaid> let's in fact start a thread on the list 12:26 < quaid> (marketing-list) 12:29 < themayor> okay 12:29 < themayor> is that moved to the list then? 12:29 < themayor> lets keep things moving if so 12:31 < themayor> ke4qqq: whats up? 12:31 < themayor> did you ever finalize that presentation? 12:31 -!- tw-work is now known as tw2113 12:31 < ke4qqq> yeah mizmo is making it purty last I heard 12:31 < mizmo> ke4qqq, i havent had a chance to yet, its on my todo list 12:32 < themayor> awesome 12:32 < themayor> we will check again next week i guess 12:32 < themayor> speaking of next week 12:32 < themayor> i wont be around next thursday 12:32 < themayor> so someone else will need to lead the meeting 12:32 < themayor> i guess i will follow up on the list to see who that will ne 12:32 < themayor> its yom kippur next thursday 12:33 < themayor> anyway 12:33 < tw2113> ooh meeting 12:34 < tw2113> MichaelBeckwith 12:34 < themayor> mizmo: max said we have money for the printing 12:34 < themayor> did anyone follow up on any of that? 12:34 < themayor> he should be in the US tomorrow 12:34 < mizmo> themayor, yeh i got max's okay and know how many to order, there is some work i have to do to the source files for the printer to work with them 12:34 < mizmo> its on my plate 12:35 < themayor> okay great 12:35 < themayor> awesome 12:35 < themayor> mizmo: any update on the four foundations stuff? 12:36 < mizmo> themayor, nope, ive been bogged down with f10 art work 12:36 < themayor> fair enough 12:36 < themayor> i guess thats a priority 12:36 < themayor> hows that coming? 12:38 -!- mthompson [n=Michelle@nat/redhat/x-c63ff830e9c6b83b] has joined #fedora-mktg 12:39 < themayor> mizmo: ? 12:39 < themayor> i guess she is busy 12:39 < themayor> stepped afk 12:39 < mizmo> themayor, same as last week 12:39 < mizmo> the icons that is 12:39 < mizmo> the f10 artwork, pretty good :) 12:40 < themayor> awesome 12:40 < themayor> keep up all the great work 12:40 < themayor> props to you and the art team 12:40 < mizmo> :) 12:40 < quaid> MAD props 12:41 < spoleeba> quaid, i was going to buy them some mad libs...but props are better 12:43 < themayor> hahaha 12:43 < themayor> kushal: any updates on the FedoraTV stuff? 12:43 < kushal> yes 12:43 < kushal> First of all , I need feed back on "Linux Ahead" news 12:44 < kushal> don't know who saw it ? 12:44 < kushal> me and mether are going to do this weekly 12:45 < spoleeba> kushal, let me watch it today and i'll give you feedback...where would you like.. private email? 12:45 < kushal> anyone ? 12:45 < kushal> spoleeba, ok 12:46 < spoleeba> kushal, the fact that you are attempting to do it...is already super great 12:46 < fugolini> yeah 12:46 < themayor> its awesome 12:46 < themayor> i did watch it 12:46 < kushal> ke4qqq, I also started having audio files 12:46 < themayor> theres lots of goofs, but its a start of something ive wanted done for a looooong time 12:46 < spoleeba> kushal, what sort of stuff are you looking for? like feedback on your hairstyle and clothing...or something more structural feedback? 12:46 < kushal> spoleeba, lol 12:47 < kushal> spoleeba, structural 12:47 < kushal> actually I sat in wrong chair 12:47 < kushal> and I was missing the board where I wrote all the news 12:47 < kushal> :( 12:47 < spoleeba> kushal, i have to watch it....but i always thing of this sort of thing in terms of...segments..can we easily take bites out of it and reuse them 12:47 < kushal> so I was looking right many times, to see what is next 12:47 < kushal> spoleeba, ok 12:48 < spoleeba> kushal, production quality...is a matter of practise 12:48 < kushal> one more thing 12:48 < kushal> Should I put "meet the contributors" videos on fedora tv ? 12:48 < spoleeba> kushal, ive seen some really craptastic pilot sitcome episodes..that got better in the 2nd episode 12:48 < spoleeba> kushal, i dont see why not 12:48 < kushal> spoleeba, :) 12:49 < spoleeba> kushal, hell... the original pilot for Happy Days had a brother for Richie Cunningham...totally gone in the second episode 12:49 < themayor> hahaha 12:49 < themayor> anyway 12:50 < themayor> kushal: yes about the meet the contrubitor videos 12:50 < kushal> ok, cool 12:50 < kushal> btw, I started getting good hits than previous month from miro 12:50 < quaid> spoleeba: I thought the brother was always "off at College"; I remember him playing bball and stuff; but he was gone within a season or two 12:51 < spoleeba> quaid, shrug 12:51 < themayor> lol 12:51 < spoleeba> quaid, im sure by next season kushal will have this ironed out 12:51 < kushal> any other feedback on the screencasts ? 12:51 < kushal> spoleeba, hehe 12:51 * lcafiero has to go to day job and begs the chair's pardon 12:51 -!- lcafiero [n=larry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has quit ["Leaving"] 12:51 < themayor> alright with the remaining 9 minutes anyone want to add anything else or bring anything else to the table? 12:52 < spoleeba> themayor, election-eering? 12:52 < kushal> <eof> 12:52 < quaid> spoleeba: what do you have in mind about it? seems lively on list :) 12:53 < themayor> yeah its a hot topic 12:53 < spoleeba> quaid, again..big concern is timetable..we do have to astroturf a little bit to get people...engaged 12:53 -!- Prakhar is now known as AcidBURN 12:54 < fugolini> spoleeba: I think IRC debate could still work 12:54 < fugolini> maybe Candidates videos 12:54 < fugolini> would require more time, 12:55 -!- AcidBURN is now known as Prakhar 12:55 < themayor> do we have time for candidate videos? 12:55 < themayor> fugolini: yeah 12:55 < spoleeba> quaid, my biggest concern is...when is the damn election actually going to be..so we know when to start juicing the constituency with made up political scandals 12:55 < ke4qqq> -1 for candidate videos - it would take a ton of time to watch anything substantive from every candidate in every election people are eligible to vote in - but I could read the log of a debate rather quickly 12:55 < spoleeba> themayor, individual candidates can do it right now...you just need a working camera and cheese 12:56 < spoleeba> themayor, we cant mandate everyone do them 12:56 < fugolini> From ambassadors perspective it has to be between December 1st and December 20th (the election days) 12:56 -!- moixs [n=chatzill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] has joined #fedora-mktg 12:56 < themayor> spoleeba: well we need to plant that seed in their head 12:56 < spoleeba> themayor, right..timetable 12:56 < spoleeba> themayor, everything basically needs to happen about a month before 12:57 < spoleeba> themayor, so we have a couple of weeks of candicate action..and a little q/a..then 2 weeks out we can repackage that interaction to feed into a debate 12:57 < spoleeba> themayor, err i should say..set the stage and build interest for a debate 12:57 < spoleeba> themayor, 1 week out from the vote or so 12:59 < themayor> yeah 12:59 < themayor> but like was stated, i dont think we can make it man datory 12:59 < themayor> mandatory even 12:59 < fugolini> logically 12:59 < themayor> surely a video will be a big boost to any candidate that chooses to do so 13:00 < spoleeba> themayor, oh i think a video would have hurt me :-> 13:00 < fugolini> themayor: but there are people who don't own a camera 13:00 < fugolini> or have bad skills in post processing 13:00 < themayor> well some things are beyond our control 13:00 < fugolini> eof 13:00 < themayor> anyway 13:00 < themayor> we are just about over an hour 13:00 < themayor> anyone want to add anything else 13:01 < themayor> otherwise, ill say lets move everything over to the list till next week 13:01 < fugolini> themayor: who will take the duty to follow IRC candidate talk ? 13:01 < fugolini> spoleeba: ? 13:01 < spoleeba> fugolini, follow? 13:01 < themayor> and we really need to sit down and have a proper long term strategy sessions maybe next week, when more people with more ideas are around 13:02 < spoleeba> themayor, who said i was around next week? 13:02 -!- ianweller_afk is now known as ianweller 13:02 < spoleeba> themayor, im flying to NC weds 13:02 < fugolini> spoleeba: I was just asking who will take care of this task 13:02 < fugolini> IRC debates 13:02 < fugolini> or each project organize it on its own? 13:02 < spoleeba> fugolini, i believe spevack was already volunteered on the list 13:02 < themayor> spoleeba: well, lets follow up with a good hearty discussion on the list and i guess i will PM sometime between now and next week 13:03 < fugolini> ah ok 13:03 < spoleeba> fugolini, to moderate 13:03 < fugolini> that's great 13:04 < themayor> alright, i need to move on to other work, so im gonna call it a meeting unless anyone objects? 13:04 < themayor> or i can go and you guys can feel free to chatter bug about 13:05 < themayor> got a phone conf in 11 mins 13:05 < themayor> alright, thats a wrap then 13:05 < themayor> see you guys on the list 13:06 < fugolini> thank you themayor 13:06 < themayor> thank you guys for all the awesome work
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