On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Zhukov Pavel <gelios@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Then fedora will continue loose people that doesn't like "google right > after install". That's most of newbie linux users. Is this correct > marketing decision? It's a principled marketing decision...and one I will continue to support. The purpose of this project is to advance open source innovation.. it is not to collect users like they are pogs. We don't do that by prefering to expose users to the more capable and legal but closed source versions of any technology over the less capable or illegal open versions. Flash and multimedia is no exception. If the open flash that we can distribute sucks...then we find a way to fix it..and fix it legally. Open development happens faster exactly because developers and users are in more direct contact than traditional closed development. We undercut the engine of open development by preferring to show users closed software over open software. In this sense, ESR and myself are on opposite ends of thought on how to deal with the problems of multimedia. If you don't agree with me, you might also find that the freespire is more to your liking. We can not hide from the fact the the legal issues surrounding patents and multimedia is a huge mess. It won't get better unless we face it head on and deal with it. Running off to a small island somewhere where software patents and incorporating there isn't going to help fix the problem. We fix the problem by standing here, and telling everyone that this patent crap is fundamentally hurting open innovation. We fix the problem by standing here and reminding people that Europe is not immune to this threat. It's real damn easy to pretend the problem is just a US issue...its not. Its a looming legal issue everywhere. We don't win long term by ignoring it. We'll have this same discussion every single release cycle.. and I'm okay with that. Patents are the biggest problem facing the open source ecosystem, and I'd rather have Fedora stand here and be a beacon for rational, passionate, discussion on the issue, than to just side step the issue for the sake of collecting a few more users in our userbase. I do not need to beat another linux distribution in terms of users for Fedora to achieve is core goals of fostering open innovation. I need 'enough' users... i need 'enough' upstream developers.. i need 'enough' maintainers.. I need 'enough' triagers... I need 'enough' artists... I need 'enough writers...I need 'enough' translators.... and give them 'enough' open infrastructure by which to communicate as partners in the process of open innovation. What I don't need is proprietary software. I don't need to be greedy for Fedora to reach its prime objectives. I am perfectly okay with other distribution existing and being popular. The future of ALL linux distributions runs through what is happening as part of Fedora...and I'm perfectly happy with that. -jef -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list
