Re: Fedora more successful, developer-wise, than Ubuntu

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Here is a simple metric for you:

Each September MIT offers a brief introduction to computing at MIT to all comers, but particularly focused on the incoming freshmen. Institutionally MIT is a Red Hat Enterprise Linux shop. Unfortunately, most incoming freshmen run what is free, not what is supported.

For many years the informal poll, "by show of hands, what distro are you running" the majority was Fedora. Starting last year, Fedora took a distant second to Ubuntu. In the "Linux Stand and be Counted Survey" departments, labs, centers and individuals at MIT run a significant majority of Debian/Ubuntu compared to any other distro.

Maybe this is just because, like Mandrake before it, there was some significant that made the distro very popular for a time, but then then it was abandoned and the majority returned to the steadfast source of interesting new and useful functionality, Fedora (and Red Hat Linux before it.)

My experience, however is:

Red Hat Enterprise Linux is for large institutions where ANY change is bad, and where nobody cares about laptops. Functionality is always a couple years behind
	what people find on Windows, MacOS or Fedora.

Fedora is for people interested in playing with and contributing to the bleeding edge of Linux. Stuff is always changing, and it's often different from what everyone else is using, and it sometimes need a little tweaking to get stuff working. Sometimes
	this is a welcome challenge.  Sometimes it's too much of a pain.

Ubuntu is for people who want to use Linux, preferably on their laptops, and preferably not for development. But also, Ubuntu is COOL. It is easy to get it going and working with the same stuff that the guy next door runs on the Mac
	or under Windows.  Contributing in the future is a real possibility.

I am concerned that Fedora and Red Hat are losing mindshare in a way that a few years down the line will "kill the seed corn." There's no nice middle ground between Red Hat Enterprise with well established functionality, and Fedora with bleeding edge functionality. Well there is
but it's called Ubuntu.

For the people already committed to the development community, Fedora is perfect just as it is. But for people not sure whether they want to use Linux, or join the developer community, Ubuntu works, but Fedora has issues.

Perhaps those who feel as Mukul Dharwadkar and myself will find a way to provide a particular spin on Fedora that will be an intermediate stage between Fedora as it is now, and Enterprise such that the developer community will build from the Fedora code base, not the less interesting, but more usable Debian/Ubuntu code base.

-Bill

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William Cattey
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On Dec 21, 2007, at 5:28 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote:

if you feel Ubuntu is competition, then you absolutely the wrong
mindset in place to be an effective contributor for Fedora. The Fedora
 mission is about being a conduit for upstream development.

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