-----Original Message----- From: fedora-marketing-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:fedora-marketing-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Dekoenigsberg Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2007 9:29 PM To: For discussions about marketing and expanding the Fedora user base Subject: Re: How to compete against Ubuntu On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Gian Paolo Mureddu wrote: > Greg Dekoenigsberg escribió: >> >> Mostly I agree, but one note here: if there is one group to whom we >> should be more aggressively "marketing", it is to potential >> contributors. Fedora needs to be more about contributors, and >> therefore making the lives of contributors easier. > > Couldn't agree more... Fedora seems to have too much "bureaucracy" for > contributors to, well, contribute. Some might say that it is standard > bureaucracy, but still quite cumbersome at times. Not that it is > difficult, just messy and cumbersome at times. I know that the "others > are not so bureaucratic" argument means nothing, at least to the many > Fedora contributors and community members, but I've seen my share of > complaints from "would be" contributors about just that. Anyone want to gather the specific complaints in that regard? I know we're working on some issues -- improving the CLA, working on a new account management system, other small things -- but knowing the pain points of new contributors is always important. --g I'll add some bits but put simply I know from my experience in trying to package some things that documentation is the big one. Every time I package something and let someone have a look at it I find that I?m missing something that isn't documented properly. That?s my biggest frustration.....gnome-yum or yum-gnome scrollkeeper? Yet I can't find anything relating to scrollkeeper and packages. I know it's improving but that would be a start. One thing Debian does really well is that it has a plethora of documentation on how to contribute and everything relating to the packaging process. I've got other questions as well but yeah while it doesn't relate directly to bureaucracy I think it relates to contributing. My $0.02 Marc -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list