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From: "Rahul" <sundaram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <dimitris@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Discussions on expanding the Fedora user base"
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Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Fedora-marketing-list] Next-release plans on the frontpage
Dimitris Glezos wrote:
We could consider though including something "lighter" than the actual
release
summary, right?
In the front page before the release is made? I have planned it long back
but I havent had much help from anyone here before when I asked. See
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FC6LaunchMediaPlan.
It's not a bad idea to have something like "What we are currently
cooking".
GNOME goes a step further and includes such a section even in it's
release notes:
http://www.gnome.org/start/2.14/notes/en/rnlookingforward.html
Cooking something doesn't mean it will actually be served. Hell, it might
get
even burnt. =)
We frequently dont have much information about the next release but I dont
mind listing a few things that we things we are about to do. For FC7,
Reducing the size of Fedora Core. KDE in Extra among other things.
Network Manager by default
Unifying Core and Extras repository
{insert other plans here}
I think this is cool (from a marketing perspective), it motivates users
to
expect something, to actually look forward to the next version. We could
start
with something not very specific/promising and as the test versions are
released
become more specific. Besides, by the time of test3 things become pretty
solid.
-dim
After test3 release yes but Leon's complaint as I understand it was that
we dont have any information about FC6 *right now* in the frontpage which
is think might be a bit premature.
Rahul
I actually agree with the whats cooking concept. It would be good to get
feedback from the devs and or ask them or someone from them to post up what
they expect to be in say the next release then a future future release.
Something that is getting worked on for FC6 and something thats hopefully
going to make it to FC7.
At the top of the page we should put in big bold letters THIS IS NOT
GUARANTEED TO BE IN. As was said. I still think we will get people saying
why wasn't this or that in there.
I think in creating a page and linking it to the front we can get people to
see where fedora is going. The complaints about Fedora are being heard and
are being addressed. These aren't specific package bugs but conceptual
bugs. E.g. Fedora is to big and bulky. Well in the future we are planning
on reducing the size of it.
Things like that show that the devs are hearing the voices. I remember
Rahul getting berated on the fedora_users list because someone kept saying
why does RH not listen to us and obviously they wanted changes in Fedora
which had not happened. I'm not to sure what it was regarding cause soon
after I left cause it deteriorated into an underlying issue which had
nothing to do with Fedora, one of the answers that was said was well you can
get involved. Which I agree with.
However the point of that is people don't know whether the devs know what
the complaints are. Not bug specific but feature specific. I feel that a
lot of the time the devs do hear what people say however they can't or
choose not to communicate that back to the users and this page I feel would
aide in that.
However some of the complaints that I had without posting or saying anything
are getting dealt with and while it was a pleasant surprise I would have
liked to know what potentially is going to happen in the future. This also
helps people with changes that are going to cause potential issues.
SELinux, Hal originally I had huge number of issues with it. Mainly due to
me stuffing things up and manually adding mounts in fstab the usual. While
I have no doubt SELinux was a significant step forward there seemed to have
very little info about it at the time. Since then its improved immensely
which is great however it would have been nice to see it ahead of time
again.
I'm sorry if this seems way to long I just wanted to put some suggestions
forward unfortunately I personally don't have the time to help specifically
with it due to University contributing a significant work load to me.
Regards,
Marc
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