On 11/8/05, Joshua Wulf <jwulf@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > My main concern with the present design is the confusion caused in the > cortex by the superimposition of the f and the infinity sign. Having the > two elements there in that way causes neither of them to be striking and > the brain to prevaricate between the two. It makes the effect weak. > > The faded infinity detracts from the f. > > The f detracts from the infinity effect. look back at discussion... this has come up before... and modifications have been presented which use in-lining and out-lining to make the f more distinct... but are still within the framework of the original design. If you have a different tweak in mind, break out your favorite drawing tool and mock up a modification. If you have to throw away any of the 3 composite symbols, you aren't thinking hard enough. > > The net effect of the two is cognitive confusion for the brain. It's not > good to make things confusing for people. I'll believe there is cognitive confusion here, when you have MRI data of people while looking at the draft logo which clearly shows increased activity in the anterior cingulated cortex. > > I can see how if you look at it with the right brain waves going it > looks leet. But for most people at a glance the visceral response seems > to be confusion. I refuse to let ANYONE in this discussion get away with backhanded comments concerning what "most" people think. That is a debate parlor trick that only serves to prolong this discussion. If you want to talk from personal experience fine...but don't claim to know the thoughts of the collective hivemind of the unwashed and the uninitiated unless you have some very hard and very statistically significant data to back that crap up. > In an informal survey I haven't been able to get many > good reactions from people. Yippie frelling do-da.... i have done several different informal surveys among friends,co-workers and church members. I showed them the combined symbol as well as http://capstrat.com/development/fedora/fedoraLogo_10.jpg no one reacted strongly to the symbol itself. and everyone got the 'important' message from fedoraLogo_10 What's this prove... absolutely nothing. Neither of us have used a repeatable survey methodology nor have either of us made any attempts to limit surveyor bias. -jef"you can ask any group of people anything and get the answer you wanted to get beforehand"spaleta -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list