On 9/8/05, Marc Wiriadisastra <marc.w@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > One difference that I noticed for example which isn't a bug report but a > comment. RHEL sound works on my laptop, ubuntu sound works on my > desktop FC4 sound doesn't work? bugs are bugs are bugs are bugs... did you happen to file a bug about your specific hardware during the test phase leading up to fc4 release? Or did you run into this after release. You make it sound like there was a delibrate effort to make sound not work for you. Perhaps its just a bug.. a hardware specific bug... that didn't get reported during testing. Go watch the upstream alsa list or the kernel lists..and watch how often hardware specific bugs about specific peices of hardware pop up. Is there room for improvement for how to organize manpower and hardware coverage during test releases leading to a release...yes.. of course. I will point out howver that Ubuntu is not immune to sound problems either appearently..... http://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=94639 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27583 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=47048 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21211 <over the top alarmist mode> Dear god no! a desktop oriented distro that has sound problems! That ubuntu project has clearly failed their target mission! They are doomed! </over the top> <rational empathic human> I see some rather familiar fc4 sound problems in those ubuntu hardware problem forums. As I expected really.. since most of the problems even in FC4 appear to be issues with bad default settings for cards in upstream Alsa. And well.. isnt it better for everyone to work these problems out as part of upstream alsa so everybody downstream gets the fix? bugs are bugs are bugs are bugs Please take your personal experience with a grain of salt and try not to extrapolate that out too far into the rest of the community. I don't want to confuse you with an OSnews reviewer. I think you should avoid making arguments that use the phrase "majority of the time" when making any cross-comparative statement... because I'm pretty sure noone in this list including you has any sense of what "majority of the time" experiences really are for any distro across the vast arrary of real-world hardware... noone has hard data on that. bugs are bugs are bugs are bugs. -jef"step right up.. pay 5 dollars to ride my time machine and find tomorrow's bugs so you can fix them today..thus ensuring the implosion of the universe"spaleta -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list