> How do i put this.... > Some people need to be violently divorced of the idea that this > project is going to magically produce the ideal desktop experience for > every computer user on the planet with every release. For once I agree with Jef[f]. Fedora is not for Ubuntu people. I love using Fedora and I hated Ubuntu because decisions were made for me. For this reason, the elements the "right thing to do" argument fit our target audience. But we need to sell those points a little more succinctly: Why...the best out-of-box security model available. Why...because it's all open. While I have mixed feelings about pushing "open" as a benefit to end users, Bob Young is making that case on the other side of the room right now, so I'll just go with the flow on this one. MPF -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list