Mr. Frye calls me out. Well done, sir. OK, so. What is Fedora? Many separate projects with different, but complementary goals. At the center: Fedora Core, a quick-moving, completely open, multipurpose OS. What is Fedora's Goal? To make quality free software available to everyone in the world who wants it. Build from there. :) --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan On Thu, 11 Aug 2005, Matt Frye wrote: > On 8/10/05, Greg DeKoenigsberg <gdk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > This is not a matter of our failure to define Fedora properly to the > > community. > > I disagree. The nebulous fog of an idea's worth of a vague notion > that comprises the first paragraph on fedora.redhat.com is an inherent > failure. Like it or not, it's the first Google'd hit on "fedora," and > it doesn't do Fedora justice. > > We have also failed to define what Fedora is *not*. The community is > looking at Fedora and seeing a pot of code, not a server, not a > desktop, not any of the things we might like them to see. Are they > seeing what they want to see? Hell yeah, because we're not telling > them what *we* want then to see. Our roadmap is equally nebulous. > LiveCD? One-CD install? DVD? Put that in the roadmap. > > Since I know Greg's response will be something like, "So what *you* > think we should do Mr. Frye?," here are some suggestions: > > 1) Stop spending time on decisions that we don't get to make, e.g.. > logos - it's just an example, but there will be more like it. > 2) Build a plan that's actionable, i.e. one that Red Hat's real > marketing team will allow us to execute. Ultimately, any real chances > that we want to take must be approved. Red Hat 2005 isn't the Red Hat > of 1998, and we don't have real autonomy. > 3) Market with information, not just hats and t-shirts. Make it cds, > books, dvds, etc. Organize speakers for LUGs. Be one. That's what > they really need! > > That's just for starters. > > > Beyond that, I don't know that there's much to say. The only way forward > > with Fedora is to build the community of developers, and increase the > > quality of the offering over time. That's all. > > How about challenging the "Fedora sucks" guy to a debate? Sometimes > that's all it takes (see Martin Luther), but shouldn't just ignore it. > > MPF > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list