This is not a matter of our failure to define Fedora properly to the community. This is a case of someone seeing what they want to see: #1. Red Hat should never have gone to the RHEL/Fedora model. We don't care what the financials look like. #2. Red Hat is using the community as guinea pigs. #3. Fedora sucks and is completely unstable. #1 is simply wrong; we couldn't have survived with our old model. #2 is a matter of perspective, and is thus not arguable. The only one of these opinions with any value at all is #3, and we need to strive to improve the Fedora Core release process. And we will. Beyond that, I don't know that there's much to say. The only way forward with Fedora is to build the community of developers, and increase the quality of the offering over time. That's all. --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Matt Frye wrote: > Steve Mallett illustrates his fundamental misunderstanding of Fedora > here: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/7576 . However, this does > point to a marketing problem. > > Are we clearly defining Fedora to the technical community? > > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list > -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list