I'm kinda new here, and this is an interesting conversation about fundamentals...which is important to agree on. What does 'Fedora' mean? All the up-stream Red Hat-related development activities based in "the community," maybe? -Sam On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 16:01 -0700, Karsten Wade wrote: > On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 18:44 -0400, Greg DeKoenigsberg wrote: > > On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Karsten Wade wrote: > > > > > This confusion is happening in this thread, not made any easier because > > > everyone keeps asking what "Fedora" means. It doesn't mean anything, it > > > means several things, and what can we do about that? > > > > Fortunately, we're not alone in this quandary. We need only look as far > > as the Apache Software Foundation and ask, "what did they do about this?" > > > > Well, for starters, they came up with identifiable names for all of their > > projects. HTTP Server. Ant. Tomcat. Cocoon. Maven. NOT: "The Apache > > Web Server Project" and "The Apache Java Build Tool Project" and "The > > Apache Java Servlet Engine Project" and so forth. And when you talk about > > the Apache Software Foundation, you talk about "the ASF", not "Apache". > > I wonder if we could take a lesson from that. > > Certainly could. /me ponders what to call the documentation project > > We get our current practices somewhat from Red Hat branding habits. > It's the branding debate of "Porsche 911" v. "Ford family of > automobiles." Red Hat is firmly in the Porsche camp. > > Still, projects gain some visibility and credentials by having the > Fedora word as part of the name. There are many Apache projects I > wouldn't know are Apache related until I see the project URL. I don't > know if this is good or not. > > One good thing would be the dropping of all these extra TLAs. > > > It's a bit more complicated than that, of course, but the further we go > > down this path, the more it becomes clear to me. I will make the > > following statement, and I will make it in an absolutist way, and ask > > people to agree, or not: > > > > The goal of the Fedora Marketing Project is NOT to "market Fedora" as > > an entity. The goal, rather, IS to explain, promote and recruit for > > individual Fedora projects. > > +1 for the IS part > > The first part leans on an unexplained definition of "marketing". > > AIUI, the point is, stop thinking of Fedora as a singularity and start > thinking of it as a multilarity. Or just plain hilarity. > > - Karsten > (yes, I know it is "multiplicity", but then the joke doesn't work) > -- > Fedora-marketing-list mailing list > Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx > http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list