...which will probably end up blogged at some point soon. At LinuxTag, I watched Benjamin "Mako" Hill defend Ubuntu against a room full (and I mean full by the dozens) of angry Debian developers who believe that a billionaire has hijacked years of their hard work and taken the credit for it. Frankly, he didn't do a very good job of this defense. Kind of a tough defense to mount, actually, since the Ubuntu folks put together a tool that pulled in Debian patches and inadvertently (one hopes) stripped the names of the original contributors out of the change logs. Oops. "We need the Debian community," he said. "There's ten of us, and thousands of you. But hey, is a fork really such a bad thing?" Good luck, Mako. After the talk, I spoke briefly with Martin Michlmayer, former head of the Debian project. He was soliciting Fedora folks for our knowledge on "how to get a release out the door every six months." Not that we're brilliant at it ourselves or anything, but we manage to get the job done, and get new stuff in release after release. There are, without doubt, things that we can learn from Debian/Ubuntu, and I fully intend for us to do precisely that. But bear in mind, gentlemen, that there's a great deal that Debian/Ubuntu -- and everyone else -- can learn from us. --g _____________________ ____________________________________________ Greg DeKoenigsberg ] [ the future masters of technology will have Community Relations ] [ to be lighthearted and intelligent. the Red Hat ] [ machine easily masters the grim and the ] [ dumb. --mcluhan -- Fedora-marketing-list mailing list Fedora-marketing-list@xxxxxxxxxx http://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-marketing-list