On Tue, 2006-09-19 at 17:17 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote: > > Thorsten Leemhuis schrieb: > > Gianluca Sforna schrieb: > >> On 9/19/06, Robert Scheck <fedora-extras-list.listman@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> On Tue, 19 Sep 2006, Gianluca Sforna wrote: > >>>> I think you just have to follow the guidelines here: > >>>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Policy/AWOL_Maintainers > >>> why just wait another three weeks (!) when the maintainer already had three > >>> weeks time after the initial reminder for the mass rebuild? > >> Because rules are rules? > > > > IMHO: No. No. No. > > > > Getting stuff done is the most important thing. Rules help organizing > > "getting stuff done" when a large number of people work together. But > > let's not stick to them blindly just because there are rules. We should > > consider most of our rules (not all!) more as guidelines IMHO and we > > should adjust them quickly if needed. > > > >>> Original maintainer didn't build the package until now, so I really would > >>> like to take it soon. I talked with Thorsten resulting in when there's no > >>> real complaining by the folks here, taking should work... > >> If someone from the upper spheres (a.k.a. Thorsten) agrees with you > >> short-circuiting the policy, that's fine also for me. > > > > Well, we didn't talk about this case explicit in FESCo IIRC. But my 2 > > cents on the whole issue: > > > > A kind of AWOL process indirectly was started when the mass rebuild was > > announced (that was more then three weeks ago). If maintainers didn't > > showe up to rebuild their stuff -> packages considered mostly orphaned > > (at least *if* the packager didn't rebuild one of his packages and seems > > to be AWOL by common sense -- e.g. no other commits in the past weeks, > > no posts on this mailing list and stuff like that). Other people should > > be able to take over the packages quickly now in time to get the tree in > > shape before FC6. E.g. announce it in the wiki and on the list that you > > want to take over a package, wait two or three days, recheck if packager > > is still AWOL, take it over. > > s/take it over/& as comaintainer for some weeks before you take it over > completely/ > > > If the packager shows up again in the next > > weeks -> give him his package back. > > > > Just to be sure: That just my opinion. But I'd say if the other > > FESCo-Members agree with this or a slightly adjusted variant of above > > scheme let's just start using it. And how about taking further consequences? I wouldn't find revoking accounts to be a fault to people going AWOL -- but that's just my opinion. Ralf -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list