On Sat, 2006-04-22 at 10:30 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: > Hi, > > First of all thanks to FESco for trusting me and making me a sponsor. > With that said, I just started reading > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SponsorProcess Looks like the page is need of a few tweaks :-) > And I have some questions, according to this page a new contributer > should send a mail to the list: "Note that they should also have sent > mail to fedora-extras-list with a package which they are proposing to add." > > But according to: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Contributors > > The introductionary mail we used to have no longer is needed and indeed > I haven't seen any of those mails in a long time. > > Also according to: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SponsorProcess > > The way to find people to sponsor is through the Fedora Account system, > however there are currently only 2 people listed there, one who doesn't > have a bugzilla account, atleast not with the mail address in the > account system and the other who does have a bugzilla account, but 0 FE > bugzilla activity. I was amazed by this since one of the reasons for me > asking to become a sponsor is because of Fedora Status mails saying that > the needs sponsor queue was ever growing. > > If I'm not mistaken the proper way to find people needing sponsors is to > look at the FE-NEEDSPONSOR tracker bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177841 Yes, I would agree there. In fact, the Contributors page only tells people to get a Fedora Account after their package has been approved. The Contributors page also tells the submitter to mention that they need sponsoring, but doesn't mention adding the FE-NEEDSPONSOR tracker bug, so some submitters won't have done this. > Also this bug says: "SPONSORS: when you accept the responsibility of > reviewing a package, please take it off of this list." Shouldn't this be > on: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Contributors instead / too. > > I have the feeling that currently not everybody is doing this (taken > package review needing sponsors of the list when they have started the > review). See for example: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=177106 I'm not sure that this is the right thing to do anyway, at least not until some way through the review process. When I review a package from a new submitter, one of the things I'm looking for is their responsiveness to feedback, and I also try to see what other activity they may have on other mailing lists etc., to get a feel for whether I'm comfortable sponsoring them or not. During the review process, I may decide that I'm not comfortable sponsoring this particular submitter, (though I'd probably not change the blocker from FE-NEW to FE-REVIEW before making that decision). Another change I'd suggest is to: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/Contributors There is a section on mailing lists to join, after which it says: Read Other Submissions Read some other package submissions to learn about packaging and gain familiarity with the process and requirements. I'd add to this that joining the read-only fedora-package-review mailing list (not included in the aforementioned section on mailing lists) is a good way to see the process in action for other submissions. Paul. -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list