On Fri, Apr 14, 2006 at 10:50:55AM -0400, Ed Hill wrote: > > -1, I strongly disagree based upon end-user expectations > > I vote for consistency. That is, all packages within both FE and FC are Me too. Package before and after eol are handled similarly. Consistency for packagers is as important as consistency for users. And the consistency is a relative concept. I am for consistency between what is done for FE and FE eol. Some users might even have the same expectations than me. > eol-ed more-or-less simultaneously and are treated in a very similar > manner. The overall trend here seems to be a convergence (or a blurring > of the distinctions between) of FE and FC. Having different eol policy But there is a sharp distinction between fedora legacy and fedora core. The rules are completly different and completly different than those from extras. This is as difficult to explain than why the fedora legacy and fedora core are different. I have seen users complaining loudly in fedora legacy lists that the packages weren't updated. > and/or practice within FE/FC (or different expectations on a per-package > basis as Patrice suggests) is, IMO, a lot of confusion for very little > gain. It is not what I suggest: it is the current practice in fedora extras. And it is right. I don't think it makes sense to force packagers to act such that they fulfill the users expectations, because there are many users with many expectations just like there are many different packages in extra that fulfill very different needs. > Expectations regarding bug/security fixes, updates, and other changes > should (in an ideal world) to be communicated loudly, clearly, simply, > and *consistently* to all end users. Muddying the waters with different > per-package or per-repo or per-whatever behavior is not helpful. Having a fedora extras eol that works differently than fedora extras is muddying the waters. At some points I wanted to contribute to fedora legacy, thinking that it was more or less similar with fedora core or fedora extras but it is completly different. It is not an issue for fedora core vs legacy as these are different peoples (redhat/community) different infrastructures. But I don't think it is right for fedora extras vs fedora extras eol as these are the same people and same infrastructure. And fedora extras is allready very inhomogenous. -- Pat -- fedora-extras-list mailing list fedora-extras-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-extras-list