Re: Urgent: Fedora Electronic Lab + Educational SW

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Danishka Navin wrote:
Chitlesh GOORAH wrote:
Let's use the Fedora education mailing list, instead of cross posting.

+1 :)

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Danishka Navin < danishka gmail com > wrote:
Math, Arts, Science, Language/English, Computer, Geography, Accounts,
Electronics, etc
for age range of 6 to 18 students and teachers of them.
Okey dokey, this sounds really like a beginning. I think we should also
evaluate, which applications we're going to include, since it doesn't really
make sense to flood the spin with e.g. three geometry programs, right?

for the Fedora Edu Spin single geometry program is enough but for a
'geometry' spin we can add all geometry programs.
That's what Chitlesh doing  for the FEL.
He is selecting all Electronic programs, but we can select only best suited
program(s).

Yep! "Best suited programs" sounds good to me. Unfortunately, somebody needs to define, what is best suited. But this sounds again like a beginning... ;)

Well it is not exactly what I am doing for electronics.
For electronics, I'm focussing on bringing opensource electronics
simulation software from the "geek planet" to the more industrial or
university level.
Thereby there are some set of rules of maintenance of the FEL Livedvd.
Example: ST Microelectronics is using Fedora in its design centres.
That is why I'm pushing the mindset of FEL contributors to a more
professional orientation.
In other words, we are not packagers anymore but CAD engineers for
fedora. Since big EDA vendors are on the edge of opensourcing some of
their tools (read my blog for more details). I'm hoping that with FEL
established ground we can help them opt for an opensource license.
Just a win-win situation for the global opensource communities.

Hence FEL's roadmap is to reduce the gap of data exchange and tools
from the commercial and open source environment. Unfortunately there
is no perfect EDA tool. But having concrete and latest research data
on silicon, we can improve our ASIC tools. If FEL ships outdated tools
with respect to the technological race and not to package versions,
then FEL has missed its goals.


Thanks for your  update.
I hope I didn't lose you. I believe that a single Fedora Edu Spin
should be more educational oriented (8-18 years).

I guess for edu-spin one has to establish or Identify the real needs
(in the real world, not on 'geek planet') and ways to solve/satisfy
that need. We need a leader for the edu-spin who has "education" in
mind.
Recently I had a descution with Chief Project Officer of the National Institute of Education Sri Lanka.
He is very much interest on Fedora as it a FOSS product.
He asked about availability of all kind educational software for school students and teachers. I can get their support for the userTesting/ feedback but this is from a specific region.

That would be great! I think any kind of feedback would be helpful, since it would aid to get an idea of what is really needed.

Apart from education software itself we have to add localization effort to make it more convenient for all regions.
I think more than 70 languages working for the Fedora l10n.

Danishka

Well, I think we need to have a concept of what to include and what not to include. We need to be kind of careful about selecting applications.

But nevertheless, I think you're right: We also need to offer some kind of localization, since we don't want to exclude non-English-speaking countries, right?

On the other hand, we also need to think about the size: Do we really want a DVD image? In some places, DVDs might be too expensive to use.

I've still some stuff around here from the days of Fedora 8, when I started working on such a spin. It might be worth looking at over the holidays. I'll dig into this and hopefully come up with some ideas.

Happy holidays everyone and have a merry Christmas!

--Sebastian

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