On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Couret Charles-Antoine <cacouret@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Bonjour! Thanks for your suggestion, we're always open to ways we can do things better. That being said, I'm leary of trying to make major changes to anything at this stage. I'd rather we took the time to discuss it and work out potential issues so we can get it right, perhaps with a target of Fedora 19 for any changes we agree upon. Here are my quickly-assembled thoughts on the matter. I hope I address all of your points. First, I wonder if we're conflating the arguments for the Release Announcement and the Release Notes. The Release Announcement is a joint effort between Docs and Marketing and is geared toward media and general public audiences. It contains mention of key features in the release in generally non-technical terms. In my mind, the Release Notes are aimed at an audience that have at least some Linux knowledge. Not necessarily experts, but at least familiar with the basics. I very much agree, however, that "$package was updated to $version" is insufficient (I'm probably guilty of writing this in some of my beats). I don't know that the correct solution to this is to completely change the Release Notes process. I'd rather see more beat writers so that people can spend more time researching and writing better sections in the release notes. Certainly, if anyone sees sub-standard Release Notes entries, they should feel free to contact the writer for that beat or make changes themselves. Most of the beats could stand to be more explanatory. In my experience, Release Notes do tend to be more dry and technically-oriented. Personally, I prefer something like what we currently produce so that I can get a quick feel for what has changed without having to dig through the Technical Notes. I may not be a representative user. I'm curious if you've spoken with other translation teams or ambassador groups about this. Do they feel the same way? Thanks, BC -- Ben Cotton Fedora Docs Leader -- docs mailing list docs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/docs