-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Greetings: I'm glad that we're having this discussion, because there are internal issues that need to be cleared up *before* they become issues elsewhere. I hadn't previously noticed the biggest issue here, which is the hypothetical situation where another group wants to re-use Fedora Docs material. If, for example, Ubuntu wanted to re-release the Musicians' Guide, they would try to write a CC-BY-SA attribution statement, and find the following text on the front page of the Guide: "Christopher Antila Fedora Documentation Project crantila@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx - ------------------------------------------------- Legal Notice Copyright (c) 2011 Red Hat, Inc. and others" To whom would Ubuntu attribute the document? Reading a little further into the Legal Notice, we see this: "The original authors of this document, and Red Hat, designate the Fedora Project as the "Attribution Party" for purposes of CC-BY-SA." For me, this clears up the question of attribution. But what of the Red Hat copyright notice? I agree that we need a copyright notice, and I suggest that every appearance of "Red Hat" in the Legal Notice is replaced with something like "Author Group" or "Authors of This Document," possibly with a hyperlink, but definitely with an Appendix titled "Author Group" or "Authors of This Document" or something like that. This allows us to attribute copyright to all contributors to a document, while at the same time keeping a clean appearance on the front page. In fact, I'd be happy with entirely removing the list of authors from the front page. As for attribution to the Fedora wiki, I wrote this CC-BY-SA attribution notice into the Musicians' Guide after re-using documentation from elsewhere. [0] Please feel free to use it as a template, or to ignore it, as desired. (As an aside, I just noticed poor formatting on that page--shame on me!) My scholarly "spider senses" suggest that we're actually talking about issues of communal ownership in an individual-centric society. I'm going to briefly research how other open-source organizations have solved similar problems, then post my findings to this list. Christopher. [0] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/html/Musicians_Guide/sect- Musicians_Guide-SC-Basic_Programming-Legal_Attribution.html -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJOBPQVAAoJEInCktGVqZ8VVM0H/3BMkTK1dQs/HALt3ADSxz3c T4gUrplgM1oDO0DwybGZaMzAz/nXu2PV40Y4Niq1eO3emHlSLqblhmcS4muHI/cI eJO7ZJKPOATJSiPNhaMybHewkaOJnMEd6y5S65/biNEsZGrEj1OLcENubS9usTjk pcog/dSofalfWUR5TO10EjKl8M8pTe9uJHGcL+a0uHayVqbL7lnt/JoJMR8++O4Z TeW9LCRx+DZ+2NxC4mfiQ2QtFNnE5XKCOge168vSKYmvWHLEXVUVWkGgXUEfftG2 t4GPHdBBoczMlaNA8PRgli3ETRqYvRc4sf/jPcKT9gOy+0zNDrKRbnENr2S+paM= =mCt0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- docs mailing list docs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/docs