Re: Do we need a documentation application?

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On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 01:30:42PM -0400, John J. McDonough wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 12:40 -0400, Eric H. Christensen wrote:
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> > On Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 11:09:29AM -0400, John J. McDonough wrote:
> > > In GNOME 3 the whole concept of menus is gone.  This means, among other
> > > things, that there is no Documentation menu.  There are a number of
> > > categories:
> > > 
> > >   Accessories
> > >   Games
> > >   Graphics
> > >   Internet
> > >   Office
> > >   Others
> > >   Sound & Video
> > >   System Tools
> > 
> > Are these coming from the standards from the opendesktop group?
> 
> It is my understanding that these come from a new standard, but I
> haven't studied it.  These are the same categories we used to have on
> the Applications menu.

So we should be able to add other categories from the standard.  (I can't find the link I'm looking for...)

> > > I could see putting the Release Notes in "System Tools", but it doesn't
> > > seem to me that documentation in general belongs there.  Yelp is in
> > > "Accessories", but that category is already cluttered, and I can see
> > > "System Tools" getting pretty cluttered, too.
> > 
> > I'd create a Documentation category before putting the RNs (and other docs) in with programs.
> 
> I don't know what is involved in creating a Documentation category.  I
> got the impression from Shaun that it wasn't going to happen upstream,
> but that the Fedora maintainer might be able to do that for us.  But
> given the ergonomics, I suspect you need to be pretty stingy with new
> categories, so what about Education, Electronics, Astronomy, other
> categories that have shown up from time to time?
> 
Yep, we should be able to add those as well.  I can look into that and see what it will take.

> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > To further complicate the matter, previously GNOME, XFCE and LXDE could
> > > all share a .desktop file.  It looks as if now a unique file will be
> > > required for GNOME.
> > 
> > This seems less than useful.  Why the break in the standard .desktop file?
> 
> The old .desktop files still work for XFCE and LXDE.  It is only on
> GNOME where it is a problem.

Is there a standard?

- --Eric
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