On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 19:48 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Mon, Jun 01, 2009 at 06:32:10PM -0500, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > Eric Christensen wrote: > > > > > > But as someone pointed out, that source RPM isn't in an exceptionally > > > open format. AND I know that everything Fedora produces isn't in RPM > > > format. > > > > > > Eric > > > > > RPM isn't an open format as compared to what? It isn't a simple > > format, but it is about as open as you can get. It is used by > > multiple distributions, and is available for other systems besides > > Linux. It is easy to access with the proper tools. For that matter, > > you can install a source RPM just like you would install a binary > > RPM. It will put the files in the default build tree for the user > > doing the installation. You do not have to be root to install a > > source RPM. > > I think we should differentiate "open" in the sense of "documented, > transparently accessible by any tool" (which the RPM format is) from > "easy to understand for n00bs." (which it's not). Yeah, I wasn't trying to suggest that RPMs aren't open, they just aren't easily as understood as, say, the actual text from the CVS. > > Now, as far as Fedora producing something that is not an RPM, I > > would like to see an example of that. Some things are generated "on > > the fly" by the scripts included in the RPM, but there is nothing > > stopping you from looking at the scripts - even is a binary RPM. > > I think Eric was referring to our many hosted projects, > infrastructure, websites, artwork, and so forth, where source is > stored in some sort of source code control, but RPM packages are > indeed not produced or published. Yep, that's a large part of our missing openness. > > Fedora produces a lot more than just the software packaged for your > distribution! > > -- > Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ > gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 > http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ > irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug > Eric
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